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Contents of the Draft Packs

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CCG cards could be Common, Uncommon or Rare. There were also Fixed cards (like now) and Promotionals. In some starters, the House initial was added in front of the normal rarity (like TU or SC). The breakdown for each set was about 1/3 of each, though the breakdown in boosters was 1 Rare, 3 Uncommons and 7 Commons.
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I'm gonna take another shot at the math for the rarity (for OCTGN).

If we take the 240 card pool, and pick 80 cards each to be Common, UnCommon and Rare
Then a 50 Card Draft pack might consist of 30 Commons, 15 UnCommons and 5 Rares.

Now here's where I'm not so sure about my math.
Using the numbers above. If Valar Morghulis (Core) is a rare, and the draft pack I get on OCTGN has 5 rares in it, and there are 80 rares in the set. Then I have an approx 5 in 80 chance of getting Valar....and does that break down to a 1 in 16 chance of getting Valar (or any other specific rare) ???

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Now here's where I'm not so sure about my math.
Using the numbers above. If Valar Morghulis (Core) is a rare, and the draft pack I get on OCTGN has 5 rares in it, and there are 80 rares in the set. Then I have an approx 5 in 80 chance of getting Valar....and does that break down to a 1 in 16 chance of getting Valar (or any other specific rare) ???


Depending on the way things are set up this is not right. If we make the simplify assumption that each rare is independently selected from pool of rares independent (so it is possible to get more than one copy of each rare) the correct probability model we need is a Binomial model (Bin(5,1/80)). The probability of seeing at least one Valar Morghulis is 0.061 ( 1- (79/80)^5). Though this is a very minor difference from the value you calculated (0.625).

Hope this makes some sense.

It is also interesting to note, given the number of the packs we have seen all the cards not on the list by now are likely to be rares.
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It depends on whether packs are made whole or by 10-card groups (virtual "boosters").

Someone who was there and opened some packs told me he didn't find any duplicates in 10-card packs, but he did find some in complete draft packs. This suggests only "boosters" are ensured duplicate-free.

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Wolfgang managed to get hold of some draft packs, so there was a LCG draft at Stahleck. I drafted 4 cards that are not yet in the list:

Ghost of High Heart (WLL)
He Calls It Thinking (PotS)
Tarle the Thrice-Drowned (RotO)
Westeros Bleeds (Core)

Also, Plunder, Dayne Spearman and Dornish Hermitage are in The Horn that Wakes. From the numbers, Harry the Riverlands should be in Forgotten Fellowship, while Lashing Out and Sansa Stark should be in A Hidden Agenda.
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I play a LCG draft at Stahleck. I drafted 3 cards that are not yet in the list:

Hear Me Roar (Core)
Rally Cry (TBG)
The Iron Throne (LotR)

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I can confirm that The First Snow of Winter was in the pack I drafted last night.

EDIT: Also The Power of Blood.

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So in the same draft as cockbongo we also saw:

A Game of Cyvasse (ACoS)
Alannys Greyjoy (ODG)
Army of the Faithful (Core)
Frozen Outpost (LoW)
Longship Iron Victory (KotS)
Lord Tyrion's Host (LotR)
Marya Seaworth (KotStorm)
No Quarter (TBC)
Randyl Tarly (KotS)

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Randyl Tarly (KotS)


So they haven't corrected his name? It's supposed to be "Randyll" with 2 L's (as seen in the CCG version and the most recent one).

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So they haven't corrected his name? It's supposed to be "Randyll" with 2 L's (as seen in the CCG version and the most recent one).


If they havent they should really do so. Print of demand draft packs are the perfect oportunity to reprint cards with updated errata etc and get them into peoples decks.

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So they haven't corrected his name? It's supposed to be "Randyll" with 2 L's (as seen in the CCG version and the most recent one).


I don't have a copy of Tarly from the draft packs so I don't know if they corrected it or not, but I decided to check which cards I do have from the draft packs that have an errata and see if they were reprinted with the updated text.

The following cards have been reprinted and fixed with their newest text.
At the Gates (GotC) now it reads "...search your deck for a neutral or in-house Maester character of
Doubting Septa (LotR) - she has the Septon trait now

The following cards have NOT been fixed, they were reprinted without an update
Killer of the Wounded (QoD) - limit 3 times a round
Hellholt Engineer (CbtC) - limit 3 times per round

I have not drafted the following cards so I cannot say if the errata was applied to the most recent printings from the draft packs.
Lannisport Brothel (Core) - should be Unique
Maester Cressen (Core) - title of card is missing the "t" in Maester"
Narrow Escape (KotStorm) - once per turn
Tarle the Thrice-Drowned (RotO) - should be "3 or more power"

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Apologies to LordOWar but I needed to remove the BBCode formatting and card links from the first two posts to see if that has been contributing to the issues on the forums the past few days. If it isn't I will add it back in but I'm having to dig pretty deep to figure out what the issue might be.

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Darksbane - no worries, just let me know when you think you've figured it out.

Recently I was having problems when adding any cards from The Horn that Wakes using the Card Popup Link ...such as Coldhands (THtW) but that seems to be working now. However, whenever I attempt to edit my own posts I seem to randomly get one of two editors, one that displays all of the codes, and another that does not.

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Now that the draft packs are out does anyone know any of the remaining 17 cards?

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I haven't even had a chance to buy a pack yet...

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Once stores get the draft packs in, I'd expect that there would need to be a draft event at that store before we start seeing replies on the remaining contents.

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I bought 4 packs literally minutes after the announcement but they have yet to arrive. USPS don't fail me now!

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I bought 4 packs literally minutes after the announcement but they have yet to arrive. USPS don't fail me now!

I bought 4 packs literally minutes after the announcement but they have yet to arrive. USPS don't fail me now!

Fantasy Flight says the packs shouldn't be opened and used until an actual draft event. However the draft packs that were available at World's back in November had no seal and you could easily open a pack and look at the contents and nobody would ever know. So I'm not sure if the packs you bought are for a future event or just your own personal collection. If you're willing to update this thread with any of the missing cards (see post #1 of this thread) it would be appreciated.

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Fantasy Flight says the packs shouldn't be opened and used until an actual draft event. However the draft packs that were available at World's back in November had no seal and you could easily open a pack and look at the contents and nobody would ever know. So I'm not sure if the packs you bought are for a future event or just your own personal collection. If you're willing to update this thread with any of the missing cards (see post #1 of this thread) it would be appreciated.


I just want to play some drafts with my friends. When an event come around I will buy a pack for the event. I will update the thread with any new information I get.

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Just called FFG. They should, finally, start shipping next week.
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