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Research and Destroy
Posted 19 February 2014 - 05:14 PM
Posted 19 February 2014 - 05:28 PM
So . . .that's it then? No discussion. No interpretation? Just "it's tested, it perfect, don't touch it"? Whoa, that's an impressive set of brass-balls you've go there. After 20 years of competitive CCG/TCG/LCG playing, I don't think I've ever heard that sort of confidence . . .
Apparently I have no problem with my English when I talk about physics, but when I talk about CoC no one can understand me.
Quoting my self:
before you make any change (except the ones suggested in the OP), play a consistent number of games, because again, all the quantities where thoroughly evaluated and tried before the tournament.
The key word here is _before_.
For what is worth, I also have some experience with other card games and when approaching a list, especially one that has proven strong, this is exactly what I do: BEFORE modifying it, I try it as it is, to try and figure out WHY the guy who build it/played it chose those cards and quantities.
AFTER I get what it seems like a good grasp on the deck, I modify it according to my taste.
Of course, this is MY WAY OF DOING THINGS, so if you want to take the deck and change 45 out of 50 cards of it, you are OBVIOUSLY free to do it, and I challenge you in showing me where I WROTE THE CONTRARY (like I had any chance to stop you from doing so, BTW, LOL).
On the other hand, if you change 45 out of 50 cards (disclaimer: I am clearly exaggerating with this example) then it seems pointless to complain about the deck not working, I think.
And again, I stop my conversation here and I start another few months of forum-silence.
Posted 20 February 2014 - 02:29 AM
Posted 20 February 2014 - 03:49 AM
1) I have 1 copy in my version of Graham's deck, more as an insurance against long games in which a Y'golonac may have surfaced.
1) Dr. Laban Shrewsbury? As much draw as there is, he seems like an auto include (although I'm not sure where to fit him in).
2) Elijah Conrad. This guys LOVES Flooded Vault and Temple of Rlyeh. Does he find a slot?
3) Timing question (and yes, I'm trying to figure it out based on the FAQ)
I have a College Prospect with a Khopesh and a Artifact of the Lost City attached. He commits seppeku. What's the correct sequence of timing?
College Prospect: Forced Response-Draw 2 cards.
Khopesh: Static effect to shuffle.
Artifact: Response-Draw 3 cards
So if I've got my lawyer-hat on, it goes:
- Prospect dies. All three cards enter the discard pile at the same time.
- Passive Abilities (Khopesh is shuffled in)
- Forced Responses (Draw 2 from College Prospect)
- Responses (Draw 3 drom Artifact)
2) Possibly, but also a bit expensive for the curve. I think if you have multiple copies of Temple and Vault it would be better than having this and fewer copies, but I might include one.
3) That looks right in terms of timing.
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 07:13 PM
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 07:15 PM
~Make sure to include the statistical analysis of your deck...
Update: I just wanted to say that I was able to take down R&D twice in the top 4 at the store championship in Louisville this past weekend with my homebrew deck designed to take out the deck. It was not easy and R&D is explosive enough to just win anyways sometimes but I was able to hold it off in back to back nail biters against the same deck piloted by guys from grahams Ohio testing crew. If people are interested in the list I'll post it in the decks section.
I'm interested, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Posted 04 March 2014 - 07:55 PM
Posted 04 March 2014 - 08:26 PM
Posted 04 March 2014 - 09:25 PM
Posted 05 March 2014 - 07:17 PM
a pity, i'd gladly learn some new math usefull for theorycrafting in card games
So far RnD dint dominate that many events, and Y-train seems more destructive but also beatable
i wonder what FFg does, i think waiting some time before any ban errata was a right move here after all
Posted 06 March 2014 - 01:48 AM
'Crush' being an exaggeration. Exercise your characteristic restraint (Sewer Rats notwithstanding).