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Conquest & Defiance Spoilers Thread

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The forum caps the number of images allowed in a single post, so I've made a google doc to host the spoiled cards. Link here.

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Finally an actual amazing Danny that don't have to build a deck around, like the dragon one.

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wow that's a scary daenerys. gonna need more northland keeps.

can catelyn trigger her ability on herself when she dies?

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Some of the partially hidden cards were fully spoiled in the FFG announcement, hidden behind links.
Harrenhal will be a game changer.

Doran is a disappointment and I can only see 2 lines of his text. I can see enough to know it relies on your opponent playing prized cards to trigger.. that's enough to put him in meadowlark territory for me. I suppose only time will tell if he's useful.

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can catelyn trigger her ability on herself when she dies?


No, she'll be moribund and won't be a legal target. She could target another copy of herself but that would attach as a dupe before going to the discard pile.
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okay I hate to bring it up but from far away does what Cat is holding not look like a knife, but umm something else.
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Hello, Dany with higher Str than printed cost. I'm so happy to see you.



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Hello, Dany with higher Str than printed cost. I'm so happy to see you.


That sounds like Robb stark 's chat up line.
That beard on tycho is ace, so is his ability (+1 gold or draw a card).

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That sounds like Robb stark 's chat up line.


Totally.

Seriously, though, if they keep printing "str higher than printed cost" characters with prized X on them (2 shown above) . . . New Robb is going to be a big weapon.

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Speaking of.

I'm surprised they haven't announced the 2nd CP of the cycle yet.
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Doran is a disappointment and I can only see 2 lines of his text. I can see enough to know it relies on your opponent playing prized cards to trigger.. that's enough to put him in meadowlark territory for me. I suppose only time will tell if he's useful.


C'mon.
Meadowlark does virtually nothing.
Doran Martell will still be a 3 cost and 4 STR character with Stealth. Unless he has no icons(which I'm sure he'll have INT and POW), he will always be useful even if the opponent doesn't have prized cards. The decision point will be put to test because of his own Prized 2 keyword... but I am not entirely sure that would keep me from playing him unless my deck is already saturated with that keyword.
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These were the cards spoiled completely from the different links on the article announcing the new cycle. In the cluster images you might not be able to see most of the text etc of these cards, so here they are.

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Kind of looks like he has no intrigue... But that would be beyond ludicrous, nedlyness-wiseEffect better be crazy strong if it's requiring they play prized AND you hit it with intrigue. Especially when the other head of house we see is that super sweet Daenerys.I'm hoping for a crazy Ned Stark, too.

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Kind of looks like he has no intrigue... But that would be beyond ludicrous, nedlyness-wiseEffect better be crazy strong if it's requiring they play prized AND you hit it with intrigue. Especially when the other head of house we see is that super sweet Daenerys.I'm hoping for a crazy Ned Stark, too.


If you line up the second sentence on his card with Catelyn's second sentence, the card in front of him appears to be blocking the entire space where the INT icon would go. This is what their marketing department likes to do with spoiling cards. Just give you a taste, and only enough to make us speculate.

I agree though. With his ability, he really should have an INT icon otherwise he becomes multi-card dependent instead of just being possible to work by himself. And that wouldn't justify making himself Prized(unless more card effects care about that keyword).

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C'mon.
Meadowlark does virtually nothing.


Meadowlark is a powerful ability that does nothing if your opponent Isn't running a lot of a specific set of cards. It'll get much better when another challenge enhancement is announced.

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The problem I see with those powerful prized characters is, it is like christmas for burn decks.

"Oh, you played the Blackfish. I like you to introduce to Flame-kissed" *kashing*

It is like a damn powerprinting machine for a type of deck which only was balanced by the slow amount of power it could gather... Dark times are coming...


Doran Martell is a great character of this price. 3 for 4 stealth int/pow? Yes please. Problem is, he is prized with 2. So the ability needs to make up for this, but I don't quite see it. There must be a lot of prized-cards in the meta to trigger him even once...

Btw: Does the "prized" of the agenda add up with the "prized" already on a character? Like 2+1=3 power?

so long

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The problem I see with those powerful prized characters is, it is like christmas for burn decks.

"Oh, you played the Blackfish. I like you to introduce to Flame-kissed" *kashing*

It is like a damn powerprinting machine for a type of deck which only was balanced by the slow amount of power it could gather... Dark times are coming...

Btw: Does the "prized" of the agenda add up with the "prized" already on a character? Like 2+1=3 power?

so long


The new Harrenhal will help keep burn at bay. Maybe other prized cards?
I am thinking that some of the prized characters will need to be burned down quite a bit if they come out the gate with high STR.

I believe you are correct about stacking gained prized keywords. I look forward to the rules released and hope they explain that to us about this keyword.

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I think the idea is to only use a couple of prized cards in a deck, unless you have a combo that relies on giving your opponent power.

I'd expect coldhands to get restricted fast to prevent him abusing the prized keyword, it triggers when a character leaves play. Coldhands will temporarily remove one character per opponent, if you can return him to your hand you can repeatedly claim prized off multiple characters.

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So, Doran has to have a noble crest, and both int and pow icons. His response probably reads : "when a prized card is discarded from an opponents hand, claim power equal to the prized value on the card for your house."

How good would that be?

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So, Doran has to have a noble crest, and both int and pow icons. His response probably reads : "when a prized card is discarded from an opponents hand, claim power equal to the prized value on the card for your house."

How good would that be?


that'd actually be a pretty good guess. But I wouldn't run it unless ALOT of prized cards come out....and i hope that isn't the case.