Right, but look at Xizor's set compared to Thrawn's.
-Xizor has a useful fate card that can totally turn edge battles. You can argue that Supporting fire does that too, but IME, I'd rather take Scheme.
-Xizor adds more cheap blast, with shielding. Shielding palp or xizor is a clutch play that a lot of people don't anticipate. Thrawn comes with 2 chuds that don't really do anything outside of protecting Thrawn in this scenario.
-Thrawn V. Xizor is a tough match up. Thrawn is cheaper and his ability is dope, but so is Xizor's. I've plucked many good cards using his capture. I see them about equally.
-The event that comes with Thrawn literally only works with himself in that build. Xizor's can get rid of ****** objectives early on and trigger Xizor himself.
- Xizor has a resource, albeit a living one.
-Objective wise, Xizor's is better IMO, because it helps you ramp out higher units while not losing any resources the following turn. Also, it trigger's Xizor's ability.
Without playing or proxying anything, I honestly don't see what Thrawn offers over Xizor in a sith deck...
i think they are pretty close tbh.
here is my rundown:
Objetives: they are both 2 resource objectives, masterful has 1 less health, but also allows you to use both each turn. Edge goes to masterful
Mains: Both elite, both 3 force icons. Xizor has slightly better icon spread, but costs more. Xizors ability can often times go unused if your opponent pitches all his cards, or just doesn't have any, or you could just grab a bad card and help them filter their cards. Thrawn just shuts down everything. Doesn't even have to be in the engagement. can also defend and wait to see who wins the edge battle before using his ability or using his 2 black tactics. IMO, edge goes to thrawn.
chuds: Headhunter and debt collector vs 2x noghri bodyguards: head hunter brings great damage, health, shielding, debt collector is MEH. bodyguards bring protect officer, but also double unit damage, so 3 guns with a heat of battle. edge to scum chuds. In a predominantly navy based officer deck, edge to bodyguards. Edge depends on deck type.
Events: Shadows of the empire is real nice, but so is double striking with thrawn, or using his ability, then also striking in an engagement. Again. in a navy officer deck, chain of command is amazing, where as shadows can be good in any setting. Edge goes to shadows, unless CoC is in navy officer deck.
Fate cards: Like chain of command, princes scheme loses a lot of effectiveness when not in a predominantly scum deck, as it only has a single target when splashed, where as supporting fire is a nice fate card to root out twists. Edge goes to supporting fire unless scheme is in predominantly scum setting.
So over all, it seems like Xizor's set might have an ever so slight edge, BUT i think thrawn is so good, that he might be worth using over xizor, and as i said, maybe coupled with core tarkin, then i think that combo might push them ahead of xizor in that setting.
He does, but paying 4 for a hard counter to a spider that cost (essentially) 1 doesn't scream efficiency to me.
what makes you think he's just a hard counter to the spider? He counter's every unit.