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Origins Hosting US Championships in 2016

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Wow that's awful. Not even on the same crappy day but having to take 2 days off probably kills this for me. I'm guessing all of the Wednesday events clash too so that we can't even play in multiples if we do go down?

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The events on the same day do conflict (although IA starts an hour later than SWLCG).



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Bummer. I think the 2 day midweek format killed this one for me :( Hopefully the schedule for GenCon doesn't suck this bad.

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Well, GenCon doesn't have Wednesday events at all.



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Lol. FFG scheduling at its finest.

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Origins barely had Wednesday events before

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Well shoot... aim for 17th it is, or maybe 25th.  Is anyone else confused by how the top cut will work?



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Well shoot... aim for 17th it is, or maybe 25th.  Is anyone else confused by how the top cut will work?

 

I don't think there will be a need for a cut with only 7 players. 


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I don't think there will be a need for a cut with only 7 players.

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That would make my "I only have 1 vacation day" dilemma easier, true.  I'm not quite that pessimistic though.



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Wednesday? Really? Wednesday? Can somebody message the, "What are you Smoking" author. Not only will almost nobody from out of state make it to our NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, but most of the players in Ohio won't be able to.... Smokey, cue up some kind of rage gif
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Also, this is not an april fools joke: http://originsgamefair.com/events/

Imperial Assault is Wednesday.
Armada is Wednesday.
X-Wing flights are Thursday and Friday.
AGOT2E is on Friday.
Netrunner is on Thursday.
Conquest is on Saturday.

Cuts are on the day after.


This is a weird schedule. Conquest gets a Saturday event when in the past it was on Thursday (for gen con at least). Netrunner was usually a Saturday event and now it's in Thursday.

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We will host our usual Origins Open on Saturday. I think it's been a success the past couple of years and we might have a good opportunity to grow it even more this year. Because weekends are good days to play card tournaments.
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Looking at the tournament descriptions:

Star Wars: The Card Game National Championship Graduated Cut
The graduated cut of the Star Wars: The Card Game National Championship will include the Top 16 players (based on tournament record) plus up to eight additional players tying for 16th place. Any additional ties will be broken by strength of schedule. 
 
Star Wars: The Card Game National Championship Top 8
The Top 2 players of the National Championship will have seats reserved at Fantasy Flight Games’ World Championship event November 2-6, 2016 in Roseville, Minnesota. Seats must be paid for before the Worlds registration deadline (TBA). The Champion will also receive a first round bye in the Star Wars: The Card Game World Championship. 
 

 

Has anyone seen the "graduated cut" mentioned before?



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Looking at the tournament descriptions:

Star Wars: The Card Game National Championship Graduated Cut
The graduated cut of the Star Wars: The Card Game National Championship will include the Top 16 players (based on tournament record) plus up to eight additional players tying for 16th place. Any additional ties will be broken by strength of schedule. 
 
Star Wars: The Card Game National Championship Top 8
The Top 2 players of the National Championship will have seats reserved at Fantasy Flight Games’ World Championship event November 2-6, 2016 in Roseville, Minnesota. Seats must be paid for before the Worlds registration deadline (TBA). The Champion will also receive a first round bye in the Star Wars: The Card Game World Championship. 
 

 

Has anyone seen the "graduated cut" mentioned before?

Nope.  My speculation is that they take 16-24 (depending on how many people are tied at the cut-off) and play a few more rounds of Swiss (+/- score resets), then cut to top 8.  But that's entirely speculation based on those descriptions.  I did email OP to ask how it was working, but who knows how long it will take them to respond (if ever).



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Graduated cuts are described in the Fundamental Event Document that FFG published recently when all the Tournament Regulations documents were updated.

 

https://images-cdn.f...nt_document.pdf

 

Graduated: A graduated cut is a special type of progression cut which combines the
standings-based and record-based methods. FFG does not recommend the use of a
graduated cut by anyone except experienced organizers of very high-profile events.
To utilize a graduated cut, the organizer will announce two values for the cut prior to the
start of the event: the standings-based value and the bonus record-based value. For a
standings-based value of 24 and bonus record-based value of 8, the organizer would
express this as “Graduated 24 + 8”.
After a number of rounds, standings for all players in the tournament are generated, using
tiebreakers to assign each player a specific placement. The organizer finds the current
tournament points of the player whose placement in the standings is equal to the standingsbased
value. The organizer then counts the number of players at a lower placement in the
standings with the same number of tournament points as the aforementioned player,
stopping when they reach the bonus record-based value or run out of players with the same
number of tournament points. All of those players, and those above them in the standings,
remain in the event. All other players are removed from the event.
For “Graduated 24 + 8,” at least 24 players remain, but no more than 32. Any player ranked
25th through 32nd with the same number of tournament points as the 24th-place player
make the cut. The tournament then continues with the remaining players, usually with
additional Swiss rounds.


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Nice find.  Where on their website is that document out of curiosity?  It doesn't appear to be in the Tournament Resources part of the SWLCG page...



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It was linked in the article for the last batch of FAQ/tournament rule updates. I'm not sure where else it might be located now.

 

https://www.fantasyf...h-rules-update/



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Bravo FFG! I guess I won't be making this and I live in Ohio...... Pretty sad that the non sanctioned Saturday tournament will likely have more players than their "U.S. National" tournament. Never seen a company so bad at trying to get people to play their games.....

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I hope they have sweet prize support.