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[Asklepios]

Am I reading this right?

Looking at the forums, it seems Warhammer Invasion has generated a total of 332 replies across 104 topics, not including discussion of cards on the database.

In contrast, this game, not even released yet, has generated 333 replies across 5 topics.

Now I knew that 40k was more popular than fantasy, but thats a big disparity. I'm now going to confidently predict that this game will be FFG's third biggest LCG, after AGOT and Star Wars.

The IP is, I think, popular enough to carry it a long, long way. As long as the game design is sound (and I have a lot of confidence in FFG game design) this game could be HUGE.

Thoughts?

[chunkygorillas]

I could be wrong but I think Netrunner is the most popular one, its definitely more popular than Star Wars, not 100% about AGOT though. Regardless though I do agree that this is looking to be very popular, talking to warhammer players from my local game store, it sounds like a lot of them want to pick it up, so if warhammer meta's everywhere are getting excited about this game it will surely be huge.

[MotoBuzzsawMF]

According to the last stats I saw. Netrunner is #1 with Star Wars being #2. I do not know where the others fall but I am expecting this game to be a big hit.

[dboeren]

Netrunner is clearly #1, not sure whether Thrones or Star Wars is #2 - I think it matters a lot what audience you're polling there. More Thrones players are long-term diehard guys and Star Wars has a LOT more mass-market appeal to casual gamers.

If I had to guess, they sell more Star Wars but Thrones has a tournament presence out of proportion to its sales.

Is 40K going to be huge? No way to tell other than to wait. With the pedigree, I'm assuming it will be a pretty good game. But, the theme is going to factor big. Will 40K players get into a card game? Will people skip the game because it's related to GW and so many people hate them?

I think the two main audiences will be the card gamers (who just want a good card game and may or may not be into the theme) and the casual or ex-40K players. I've seen TONS of posts from ex-40K'ers who love the fluff but can no longer afford/stomach the game and I think it will hit that demographic really well. On the other hand, I've seen people try for years to get serious 40K gamers into other games and it's aways a miserable failure. They simply will not play anything else for more than a brief lark and that will include the card game no matter how good it is.

[WasteMaLife]

This game has potential to be huge.. but it will all ride on if the game is any good. There is defiantly interest and 40K is has a massive following. It is just all up in the air now. I do not think the Warhammer Invasion forum is really a good sign, that game was dieing long ago.. if it was just announced it would probably have a lot of buzz as well.

We will see, the big test is how many Core Sets are for sale 2nde hand 6 months after release.

I'm now going to confidently predict that this game will be FFG's third biggest LCG, after AGOT and Star Wars.

ANR is the biggest LCG by a HUGE factor, then I think aGoT, then Star Wars.

[MotoBuzzsawMF]

This game has potential to be huge.. but it will all ride on if the game is any good. There is defiantly interest and 40K is has a massive following. It is just all up in the air now. I do not think the Warhammer Invasion forum is really a good sign, that game was dieing long ago.. if it was just announced it would probably have a lot of buzz as well.

We will see, the big test is how many Core Sets are for sale 2nde hand 6 months after release.



ANR is the biggest LCG by a HUGE factor, then I think aGoT, then Star Wars.

Invasion also had severe balance issues.

[Asklepios]

Netrunner is clearly #1, not sure whether Thrones or Star Wars is #2 - I think it matters a lot what audience you're polling there. More Thrones players are long-term diehard guys and Star Wars has a LOT more mass-market appeal to casual gamers.

If I had to guess, they sell more Star Wars but Thrones has a tournament presence out of proportion to its sales.

Is 40K going to be huge? No way to tell other than to wait. With the pedigree, I'm assuming it will be a pretty good game. But, the theme is going to factor big. Will 40K players get into a card game? Will people skip the game because it's related to GW and so many people hate them?

I think the two main audiences will be the card gamers (who just want a good card game and may or may not be into the theme) and the casual or ex-40K players. I've seen TONS of posts from ex-40K'ers who love the fluff but can no longer afford/stomach the game and I think it will hit that demographic really well. On the other hand, I've seen people try for years to get serious 40K gamers into other games and it's aways a miserable failure. They simply will not play anything else for more than a brief lark and that will include the card game no matter how good it is.

I think you're right, as an ex-40ker myself. A good analogy here is the Dawn of War games, I think: solid computer games that generated their own fanbase, and were played by a lot of people who used to play 40k mini games as well.

I'm always surprised when card gamers get into games if they have no interest in the underlying IP, but I have seen it happen. My friend has bought a tonne of AGOT LCG, and he's never read the books OR seen the TV show...

I suppose at the end of the day, it'll be down to quality. If this is a good game, it should do well.

[dboeren]

I'm always surprised when card gamers get into games if they have no interest in the underlying IP, but I have seen it happen. My friend has bought a tonne of AGOT LCG, and he's never read the books OR seen the TV show...

There aren't all that many *REALLY* good card games for each person, you can't afford to be too picky Well, maybe soon you will be. We're adding two more good looking games to the selection this summer after all (Conquest & Doomtown).

I suppose at the end of the day, it'll be down to quality. If this is a good game, it should do well.

Agreed, although this isn't the only factor by far. A surprisingly high number of people who have played multiple LCGs rate Call of Cthulhu one of the best, but it languishes in semi-obscurity the victim of not having a high-profile theme tie-in.

One huge factor is that because of Netrunner, the world is watching. That is, there are an enormous amount of people who were never willing to look at LCGs before that now are doing so and most of them want to get into a new game because they are intimidated by the amount of cards out for the older games. These may be Netrunner players looking for another game, or people who didn't really find the theme of Netrunner appealing but nonetheless have become interested in the LCG concept. So whatever level of success the game would have had "normally", I think it will be amplified because of this.

Anyway, it will be interesting to watch and see what happens.

[stevepop]

Yes, Netrunner is #1 by a wide margin.