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Second Breakfast
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Yesterday, 02:42 PM by slothgodfather

With Lore you can also use the dwarf that returns the top attachment.

Second Breakfast
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Yesterday, 08:51 AM by Gizlivadi

Am I the only one who's thinking of using this in a classic hobbit deck with Tactics Merry, Sam and Lore Pippin to recycle Elf-stone? Quite thematic too.

Déorwine
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Jun 28 2016 09:04 PM by slothgodfather

Yea, since you are cancelling the "shadow effect" and not just discarding a shadow card, you will get to see what it is first and then decide what to do about it.  Note that it only works on the attacking enemy that Deorwine is directly defending.

Elfhelm
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Jun 28 2016 07:54 PM by JonofPDX

I really like this guy. 

 

And obviously, he's just going to get better and better as we get more Mounts. In a multi-sphere Rohan deck, he seems like a shoe-in. 

 

Pair him up with some Rivendell Minstrels to fetch the resource songs and you can start spreading out the bonuses pretty quick. And Love of Tales obviously works well here. 

Déorwine
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Jun 28 2016 07:45 PM by JonofPDX

I don't have the Action-Window chart in front of me but could you trigger this guy after the shadow card is revealed? Or would it only work before the shadow is revealed (not counting effects like Silver Lamp)?

Sam Gamgee
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Jun 28 2016 07:40 PM by JonofPDX

Pippin would be great for Elf-stone in order to play Gandalf.

 

Pippin would definitely work. And access to Lore would be helpful. 

 

I was also playing around with the idea of Caldara. She peeks you one up above Secrecy but would let you get some big characters out. And there's a fair amount of Mono-Spirit synergy. 

Sam Gamgee
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Jun 28 2016 04:29 PM by Felagund
I would have liked to see THIS version of Sam as hero, to have the option of use him in the Lord of the Rings saga scenarios instead of horrible Fatty Bolger hero.
Denethor
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Jun 28 2016 04:08 PM by Felagund
It's like he comes with pre-built Gondor Senescal and Parting Gifts cards (although minor versions of them, of course).
Revealed in Wrath
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Jun 27 2016 07:03 PM by Gizlivadi

Fantastic card. Elladan & Elrohir decks will love it.

Sam Gamgee
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Jun 27 2016 07:02 PM by Gizlivadi

Pippin would be great for Elf-stone in order to play Gandalf.

Sam Gamgee
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Jun 24 2016 07:19 PM by JonofPDX

This card makes me want to try a Frodo/Merry mono-spirit deck. Maybe with Hobbit Box Gandalf and Narya for some extra power...don't know who I would slot in for the third hero. Though I suppose 2-Hero secrecy isn't a terrible idea...

Ered Nimrais Prospector
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Jun 24 2016 04:25 PM by JonofPDX

I actually prefer the extra HP honestly due the treacheries or shadow effects causing direct damage.

 

I feel like I get Hardy Leadership early enough, consistantly enough in my dwarf decks (especially with King Under the Mountain) that it's worth the trade-off.

 

And a lot of times that extra 1 attack will be enough to free up another character to do something usefull--like exhausting for A Very Good Tale or We Are Not Idle or just extra Questing to push through the Quest faster. 

 

Either way, though, this guy aint bad. 

Dwalin
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Jun 24 2016 03:03 PM by Felagund
Thanks for your answer. That's the way I interpreted his ability and the way I've been playing with him. But, if we're correct, I think he's one of the most powerful heroes out there (don't remember exactly, but using his ability, I reduced around 16-18 threat points on some Khazad-dum scenario). I know some will say "Lore Aragorn"can reduce even more more threat points, but: 1. His ability is restricted to one use for game, and 2. Dwalin can keep your threat level low DURING the game (which allows you to avoid lots of nasty treachery effects and gives you more flexibility during the engagement process). But, I must admit Dwalin's ability only shines in scenarios with reasonable amount of orcs (otherwise it's useless). Even though they belong to different spheres, I've compared Dwalin with Lore Aragorn because, to date, I think there's no better threat reducers in the game. Anyway, Dwalin is a great hero imo.
Dwalin
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Jun 23 2016 04:15 PM by slothgodfather

Since it doesn't specify that he has to attack alone, I'd say others can participate in the attack.

Dwalin
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Jun 23 2016 06:20 AM by Felagund
Does Dwalin's response activate only when attacking alone, or does it even trigger if he participates in any attack that destroys an orc enemy?
Ered Nimrais Prospector
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Jun 15 2016 06:24 PM by slothgodfather

I actually prefer the extra HP honestly due the treacheries or shadow effects causing direct damage.

Ered Nimrais Prospector
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Jun 15 2016 05:12 PM by JonofPDX

Yeah, he's not amazing but I think he's a perfectly acceptable 2-cost dwarf. Kind of wish he had one attack to bring him closer to parity with Zigil Miner (yes, I know, he has an extra hit point but a hit point is not equivelant to an attack). 

 

Still, he's not bad for his cost and what Dwarves want to do. 

The Thing in the Depths
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Jun 15 2016 03:45 PM by slothgodfather

"cannot" over rules everything.  So you cannot use any tricks to actually engage this enemy.  It's also immune to player card effects, so there is no way to engage this thing directly.

 

Even if you could, with a "null" value defense, I'd argue you can never hit it, since "null" is not the same as having zero defense.

The Thing in the Depths
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Jun 15 2016 10:34 AM by timmmaskiell
How would 'The Thing' interact with Tactics Aragorn and his ability? Out of curiosity, is there any way to engage it at all? Or does the word 'cannot' overrule everything?
Ered Nimrais Prospector
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Jun 14 2016 02:57 PM by slothgodfather

1. It's a cheap dwarf, furthering the dwarf swarm options.

2. It's a milling effect, which dwarves like to do - giving more likely benefit to Hidden Cache.

3. It lets you put any card from your discard pile back into your deck.  Like something you milled that you'd like back in, or an event that you used earlier and want another chance at getting, or to shuffle back in an attachment or ally you lost from play, etc.

 

In my experience of dwarf swarm decks, you can mill your deck pretty quickly, and being able to make sure you get access to Will of the West to reset your deck is pretty important.  

 

Sure, your option is a lot stronger, but then I don't think it should be a 2 cost ally.



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