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Ranger of the North
Apr 25 2015 02:11 AM by awp832
I have played a bit with it, yes. It's a pretty good card. I won't say amazing, but it's pretty good. Frankly this card would be overpowered if it triggered on shadow, the balancing effect seems to be that you might discard him. When he shows up though, he is amazing. Fantastic stats for effectively 1 cost, ranged, sentinel, and a great When Revealed ability as well. Now sure, if he is a shadow it is sort of unfortunate, but effectively denying the enemy a shadow card is good too. We had one game where the deck ran out of cards during the combat phase and we knew that RotN was one of them. As it happened, the first enemies defended against were not RotN, so there was a situation where we knew what the shadow card was against an enemy without seeing it. We were able to safely take that attack undefended, which was incredibly helpful at the time.
Ranger of the North
Apr 24 2015 06:30 PM by EdTheMad
Yes, I know. Thats why I said "should".
I meant that I really wished it was activated, but I know it won't.
Ranger of the North
Apr 24 2015 05:54 AM by Nerdmeister
It does not activate as a shadow card. The rules clearly state that when a card is used for a shadow card all text except that shadow text part is ignored.
Ranger of the North
Apr 24 2015 02:42 AM by EdTheMad
Hás anyone tried this card a lot of times to have a good idea if this peforms well? In my mind this should activate even when as a shadow, because i would be really sad to see this being discarded
Apr 21 2015 09:01 PM by slothgodfather
Got a clarification, you do gain control of objective cards, so they would be valid targets for this cards shadow effect.
Apr 21 2015 05:22 AM by Nerdmeister
Interesting finds though the ruling I was referring to from the FAQ:
(1.06) Control of Non-objective Encounter Cards Players do not gain control of encounter cards unless control of the card is explicitly granted by a card effect. When an encounter card (such as Caught in a Web, CORE 86) becomes an attachment and attaches to a character, that character’s controller does not gain control of the attachment.
Seeing as the discussion started with a question about treacheries as attachments, I continued from that PoV, though as you can see the objectives are another (and in this instance unrelated) matter.
Apr 20 2015 03:34 PM by theamazingmrg
Yep. Bombur (2 Dwarves), Dwarf A, Dwarf B and Gloin are the 5 Dwarf characters you need for Gloin to trigger.
Apr 20 2015 03:23 PM by EdTheMad
If I have two dwarf heros plus Bombur and play ally Gloin, does I get the effect?
Apr 20 2015 03:19 PM by slothgodfather
Nice idea, except I just looked at the text from the quest card "Into the Pit" which states:
"...and have the first player attach Cave Torch to a hero of his choice..."
And "Search for the Chamber" uses the same verbiage:
"Search the encounter deck for Book of Mazarbul, and have the first player attach it to a hero of his choice."
Neither state you gain control of it, unlike the rules that state when another player puts an attachment on you, control changes to you.
Apr 20 2015 09:16 AM by Nerdmeister
You are not the controller of encounter card attachments unless the encounter card specifically grants you control of it.
Apr 18 2015 07:55 PM by crx3800
I've played it that way so far. In a four player game, he gets 4 threat just revealing from the deck.
Apr 18 2015 08:23 AM by TwiceBorn
Yes, I believe that your interpretation is, sadly, correct on all counts (including the multi-player thing).
Apr 18 2015 02:47 AM by bluemu
So does/can the Forced +1 threat happen multiple times per round for a solo player?
ie. Resource phase==> 1 threat
exhaust King Under the Mountain ==> 2 threat
purchase gandalf, use response to draw 3 cards ==> 3 threat
and with multiple players, would those other players add to threat as well?
ie. Resource phase ==> 4 threat
then We are not idle ==> 5 threat
Any thoughts would be great?
Apr 15 2015 06:51 AM by kwitee
One of my favorite solo deck type is one spirit and two tactics heroes. This card can be very good for this setup. You can use feint or similair effect to keep one enemy engaged.
This Dúnedain combo-wombo can also be very effective against boses. For example Balrog from Shadow and Flame is considered to be engaged with all players with threat greater then 0.
Apr 12 2015 12:44 PM by OKTarg
Nenya would still work since you are triggering Nenya's effect and exhausting the hero to pay the cost, which isn't precluded by this effect. Similiarly, you could still use Palantir or Peace and Thought.
Apr 12 2015 02:23 AM by Ryno80
Can you still use nenya with galadriel for questing? Essentially nenya does the questing not galadriel.
Apr 09 2015 08:53 PM by slothgodfather
There isn't really optional engagement "checks" since you can optionally engage any enemy, regardless of their threat level (excluding any cards that have text that also prevent optional engagements). So yes, you can still optionally engage this enemy if you want. It just will never forcibly engage a player due to an engagement check.
Apr 09 2015 08:51 PM by slothgodfather
From a spirit deck that isn't trying to be engaged with an enemy, this is great for adding a bit of questing power to your friends. Even better when facing the spectral keyword!
Apr 09 2015 07:05 PM by Thror
Must have card for Redhorn gate and overral decent card, but for me it's not because if i'm playing with spirit, 95% of times i play is all spirit heroes (is it mono sphere deck?). In my opinion 3/5
Apr 09 2015 06:58 PM by SynnerG
Can you still make optional engagement checks against an attached enemy? Or can you only attack them in other ways to clear it from the staging area?
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