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Freelance Coding Contract
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Today, 04:13 PM by theifswimer

Ahh, Ok. I just had no idea what CE stood for.

Tsurugi
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Today, 02:20 PM by 2097

Here's the problem with that statement,the same exact thing can be said of rototurret. Are you suggesting that rottoturret is bad ice?

Rototurret would be very bad if it cost six, yes.

Tsurugi
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Today, 02:17 PM by 2097

When this card came out, I was facing insta-parasite and data sucker and econ denial out of every faction. Katman was big, but I saw the same trick out of blue and red. Clone Chip + 'Site + 'sucker. And vamp and/or Siphon.

So I was not excited to see this ice.

Maybe it's better now where I only see Parasite out of most decks, instead of every deck as it used to be.

Genetic Resequencing
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Today, 02:13 PM by 2097

As of now, it's Braintrust, Nisei MK II, Executive Retreat and House of Knives.

But this needs to be scored after the one it's adding to.

Genetic Resequencing
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Today, 02:05 PM by Junkenstein

Is there anything that lets Agenda counters be moved about? I notice its a counter placed on an agenda, not an agenda that can have counters.

Cortex Lock
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Today, 02:03 PM by Junkenstein

Im going to put this in my IG deck. If it fires early, its damage. If the runner has no spare MU ill trash it and its a +1 strength.

The Supplier
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Today, 01:59 PM by 2097

It's hardware, too. So all those Cyberfeeder, Personal Touch, MacroDrive, Lockpick etc can benefit.

Along with Datafolding, Earthrise Hotel, Daily Casts etc.

Jinteki: Personal Evolution
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Today, 01:23 PM by 2097

Black Tree <3

Freelance Coding Contract
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Today, 01:13 PM by 2097

2 cards (the trashed program and the Contract itself) + 1 click = 3 CE.

 

One CE = one card, click, credit, installation, event play or run.

Now, those aren't all worth the same and their relative value can change during the game.

 

If you have, let's say, ten cards in hand (and, let's say, a max hand size of four or five), being able to exchange those cards for credits or clicks can be a very good deal for you even at a ratio less than 1:1.

 

So spending one click, two trashed programs, the Contract card itself for four credits can be great -- you're now at seven cards in hand, four credits richer, and only used one action to do so. Cards were worth "less" to you right then, because you had a hand overfull of them.

 

Similarly, playing Modded to bring out a card that costs even a single credit (outside of Kate) can be worth it. Let's say you mod out a Zu.13.

2 cards (the Modded and the Zu.13) and one click are exchanged away in order to get one Zu.13 in play.

Whereas normally, 1 card (the Zu.13 itself), one click and one credit would be exchanged to get that Zu.13 in play.

If you're in a situation (with an overfull hand, perhaps) where cards are worth less to you than credits, it's a good deal. One card became a credit without any overhead costs.

If you're in a situation where credits are worth less to you than cards, Quality Time can be a good card to you. It's the same 1:1 ratio trade (three credits, one card, and one event play for five cards) but you might have had a glut of credits and a lack of cards.

 

This is why spinning QTs and Sure Gambles can be an efficient mix.

One QT followed by three Sure Gambles: In the end, you've lost four clicks but gained nine credits and one card.

(You traded 3 + 1 + 1 + 5 + 1 + 1 + 5 + 1 + 1 + 5 + 1 + 1 for 5 + 9 + 9 + 9 = 26 for 32: you gained six.)

 

PS: I know there's backlash on counting the card itself. Most of the time, the comparisons give the same results as long as you're consistent. If you want to see Easy Mark as netting you 1, 2 or 3 is pretty much the same as long as you use the same method to determine whether you see Sure Gamble as netting you 2, 3 or 4. In either case, Easy Mark nets you one less (which is appropriate since it's much easier to play and more flexible).

 

PPS: There's also backlash against the whole CE concept. We're not saying that all the units are completely interchangeable. Sometimes you value cards more, sometimes you value clicks more, sometimes you value credits more. It depends on what other cards you and the corp have out and what the situation is. For example having an Opus out changes a lot -- an Opus out changes Sure Gamble from a great card to an annoying card, since you can spend one click to draw the SG and one to play it and net 4, or spend two clicks on Opus and net 4.

False Echo
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Today, 10:59 AM by 2097

Paper: but... you trash it? Not much of a threat.

 

I was thinking maybe SMC or CC to suprise bounce an ice but it seems like there's no paid abilities window where I can search it up.

 

While you can respond to the corp rezzing ice, you can't respond to the corp NOT rezzing ice with paid abilities (such as searching for a False Echo).

NEXT Gold
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Today, 09:04 AM by CoralBeach

Awakening Center hosts only bioroids piece of ice.

NEXT Gold
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Today, 08:33 AM by WunderPanda
What about an Awakening Centre setup? If the runner hits it -presuming you have some NEXT ICE out plus eg a Mother Goddess- you can pop Gold for 1...

Also, boosting it with Patch as regular ICE may be a way to go....

What do you guys think?
Industrial Genomics
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Today, 07:57 AM by AdorablePython

We'll have to wait for next week, when Breaker Bay is available. Stacking 3 pieces of the new "Crick" ice on Archives might be the way to go.

Industrial Genomics
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Today, 05:43 AM by Meadbeard

Put a Swordsman in front of the Excalibur and I think you'll have a fairly good time.  Of course Eater is pretty much a broken card IMO...

 

You can try that, but a pretty canny rig is Eater + Mimic as the only breakers (never mind an inside job) in a Silverware / "instead of accessing" deck (that's what I run).

 

With more ICE on Archives, you've just set the Runner up beautifully to pay 4 credits to flip Archives without risking an access. If you play IG, one of the things you'll discover is that more ICE on Archives is not the way to go (if you want ICE towers, play Haas Bioroid or Replicating Perfection). Any Runner who knows their IG is just going to see two pieces of ICE on your Archives, bide his or her time, pay 4 credits to flip it (or 10, or whatever, because it beats trying to trash a Ronin for 17), and then go trash some previously "untrashable" asset or upgrade.

 

IG needs to make Archives risky for the Runner to the point of being hellish. Caprice + Ash make Archives daunting to say the least (remember, they're not getting trashed unless the Runner has Imp or somesuch, and they're denying access a lot), and Shock + Shi.Kyu discarded face-down are making any access expensive and dangerous.

 

Stacking ICE just gives the Runner free rein to wreck IG's best-laid plans with impunity, using one of the most powerful and popular breakers ever released. A single Swordsman is fine, because Eater can't break it, so you're forcing an access once Mimic (or whatever else) gets through it. Excalibur just feeds Eater here.

 

Now, Excalibur on another server, in front of a Crisium Grid, could be great, since all those "if the run is successful, instead of accessing" cards aren't going to benefit from Eater on that server (and this is one of the reasons Eater isn't broken, at all -- it has an extreme limitation that is made ruinous by a card that is already available and splashes for 1 . . . and that works well whether Eater is present on the board or not).

 

Played correctly, IG can have remotes with Sundew and Pad Campaign sitting in the open -- unprotected by anything other than a gigantic trash cost, which can only be diminished by a huge investment in time and considerable risk, or by spending tokens off an Imp that would otherwise be better applied elsewhere. It's not a "normal" ID.

 

Putting any ICE that Eater will break in front of Archives makes IG's ID worse than blank, since, as an IG player, you've set yourself up to toss a lot of cards into Archives face-down. Why are you doing that if you're going to give the Runner a cheap way to flip your cards sans access? Excalibur can be excellent elsewhere (really best in your hand with other Grail ICE in play), but not here.

 

Try it. Throw an Excalibur (or anything else for Eater) in front of Archives in IG. Eater will ruin your day.

Industrial Genomics
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Yesterday, 11:33 PM by kdlittle88

Put a Swordsman in front of the Excalibur and I think you'll have a fairly good time.  Of course Eater is pretty much a broken card IMO...

Freelance Coding Contract
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Yesterday, 09:27 PM by theifswimer

It pretty much turns every program in hand into an easy mark. Except itself.

So for one program, you're paying 3 CE for 2 credits, for two it's 4 for 4, for three it's 5 for 6 (Easy Mark level efficiency here), for four it's 6 for 8 (Sure Gamble level efficiency here) and with five it's 7 for 10 which is good.

Like Stimhack, it can be a desperate effort before that final hail Mary run.

 

The problem is that stacks with a lot of event rotation doesn't really have that much room for programs. Are you gonna take out your Sure Gambles to add programs for this?

What do you mean by paying 3CE?

Freelance Coding Contract
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Yesterday, 08:04 PM by 2097

It pretty much turns every program in hand into an easy mark. Except itself.

So for one program, you're paying 3 CE for 2 credits, for two it's 4 for 4, for three it's 5 for 6 (Easy Mark level efficiency here), for four it's 6 for 8 (Sure Gamble level efficiency here) and with five it's 7 for 10 which is good.

Like Stimhack, it can be a desperate effort before that final hail Mary run.

 

The problem is that stacks with a lot of event rotation doesn't really have that much room for programs. Are you gonna take out your Sure Gambles to add programs for this?

Quality Time
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Yesterday, 07:56 PM by 2097

 I hate the flavor of the card, though. The guy looks super dorky at his rig.

Freelance Coding Contract
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Yesterday, 07:54 PM by 2097

Like Quality Time, this was a card I really underrated initially because it is very nerfed from it's ONR counterpart (Organ Donor). In the end, it's a good card.

Freelance Coding Contract
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Yesterday, 05:32 PM by cammy
Great with duggers, or if using hand size increasing cards like origami. Good way of pulling what you need, gaining credits for what you don't and go's well with shaper cards that lets you install from heap. Looks better now than at first


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