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Hagen’s Daughter
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Jul 20 2018 11:35 AM by ArinRahl

A question that was asked at another place, and I didn't really catch the answer: Smne said they had seen a special ruling for Shadows, that if Hagen's Daugther is triggered, she goes into the Shadows of her controller (not owner like other out-of-play-states)? Is that true?

“Steel Rain”
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Jul 20 2018 11:30 AM by ArinRahl

The locations need to be different from the one you sacrifice, not from each other. The wording is actually fairly clear, since "for each location sacrificed" means that you're gonna loop the same effect x times with a different condition each time. Otherwise, this part would have no reference " with equal or lower printed cost" either, which makes it clear that the comparison happens between the sacced and the searched card. Pretty sure the wording would include "search your deck for a number of different locations equal to the number of locations sacrificed" or something.

 

Ha, greetings Mister B. ^^ Are you still playing this? ^^ I agree in a way, if they would have wanted the locations to be all different they would have probably put in some wording to really emphasize that... but I don't think it's absolutely clear...

 

If you put in an example, let's say 3: "Sacrifice 3 locations. For each of the 3 locations sacrified, search your deck for a different location with equal or lower printed cost and put it into play." In my opinion, that could also mean that u can search for 3 locations that have to be different from each other, but not from the 3 locations sacrificed. At least it is a very difficult distinction to make.

And why would you sacrifice a location to then search for the same location anyways? Maybe there will be GJ locations that have an if-sacrificed-effect one day? Well, I guess it would be a good way to get rid of cards like Frozen Solid, which they wanted to prevent with this wording? Anyways, it's an interesting card, but I don't think it's very useful...

“Steel Rain”
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Jul 19 2018 11:18 PM by chriswhite

Yes, it's very easy to say that the original wording is clear after the FAQ on the card is released.   Too bad you didn't chime in earlier to show us how clear it is!  You could have saved us some legwork!  :P

“Steel Rain”
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Jul 19 2018 09:27 AM by QtNFluffyBacon
The locations need to be different from the one you sacrifice, not from each other. The wording is actually fairly clear, since "for each location sacrificed" means that you're gonna loop the same effect x times with a different condition each time. Otherwise, this part would have no reference " with equal or lower printed cost" either, which makes it clear that the comparison happens between the sacced and the searched card. Pretty sure the wording would include "search your deck for a number of different locations equal to the number of locations sacrificed" or something.
Alliance
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Jul 17 2018 01:41 PM by ArinRahl

> Answered in the comments on "Trading with Qohor"

Trading With Qohor
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Jul 17 2018 01:37 PM by ArinRahl

ah, thank u!

Trading With Qohor
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Jul 17 2018 01:07 PM by mplain

A player can only run 1 copy of each agenda, even in cases (such as Alliance) where they are allowed to run multiple agendas.

[Official ruling]

Trading With Qohor
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Jul 17 2018 12:58 PM by ArinRahl

Question: Are Agendas unique or can this one be used twice with Alliance?

Nagga’s Ribs
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Jul 17 2018 10:12 AM by ArinRahl

Yes, you can. And yes, the card is only blanked as long as it is attached to the "active" character, if you want. And dead chars only prevent u from putting a same card into play, not from having it in play. (Which I still think is weird thematically, but well...)

Hagen’s Daughter
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Jul 16 2018 08:33 PM by Serazu

Any card that allows the saving and the removal from the danger zone by the same effect, evades burn.

Nagga’s Ribs
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Jul 16 2018 05:59 PM by Serazu
Can I use its Reaction to put a discarded duplicate to a character into my dead pile? The RR states that "Duplicates have no text, titles, characteristics, type, or traits. A duplicate is only considered a blank “duplicate card” while it is in play." With the above in mind, does the discarded duplicate take back its character type when it leaves play? If yes, then the Ribs allows me to put it in the dead pile I guess.
Hagen’s Daughter
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Jul 13 2018 04:12 AM by GalacticTaco

Any idea wether Terminal burn still allows to put this card into shadows? Seems like the return to shadows is part of the same effect as the save and once the card goes out of play its Str is no longer 0. 

EDIT: yes. I found the answer elsewhere. 

Venomous Blade
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Jul 10 2018 07:48 PM by chriswhite

The killing still happens, because it is all part of the initial effect––the bomb has already been deployed, so speak, it's just on a timer. 

 

If it had been templated as 2 effects (e.g "Reaction:  When VB enters play, put a poison token on a character. + Reaction: When a phase ends, kill each character with a poison token.")  then it would still need to be around.

Venomous Blade
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Jul 10 2018 04:43 PM by Mooch68

If this card leaves play before the end of the phase, (e.g. with Trading With Qohor), does the poisoning still happen?  Or does the attachment need to stay in play till the end of the phase?

Areo Hotah
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Jul 10 2018 04:32 PM by Mooch68

Thanks

Areo Hotah
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Jul 10 2018 07:15 AM by chriswhite

The challenge continues, and the defending player can still declare defenders if they wish. He or she might, for example, have an effect that trigger when winning a challenge on defense, which can only happen if the defender has more ST than the attacker (in this case, more than 0).  However, the attacker could still then respond to this with things like Dracarys!.  

Areo Hotah
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Jul 09 2018 10:18 PM by Mooch68

Might be a silly question, but it came up over the weekend and there was a disagreement on what was true. I know the answer in 1.0 but not sure about 2.0

 

Say they have launched a challenge with one guy, I have yet to announce defenders, I bring in Areo and remove the attacker.

Now does the challenge immediately fizzle (since there are no characters in the challenge), or is the challenge still running and the attacker could do things or if I wanted to I could still bring defenders in if I had a reason too.

 

I believe 1.0 the challenge immediately fizzled when no characters were in the challenge but I don't know about 2.0

City Gates
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Jul 09 2018 11:05 AM by SerBronn

Using a triggered action is not 'playing' that card. You can use 3 Goldroads to gain 3 gold in challanges but you can marshal only one of them at a time.

Trading With Qohor
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Jul 09 2018 10:12 AM by NikolaP

Can im sacrifice my opponent attachments -poppy craven etc- to trigger this agenda reaction? Thanks for helping me out.

Sacrificing attachment is part of the cost for the effect, and you can only pay costs with cards you control.
Trading With Qohor
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Jul 09 2018 09:17 AM by Santoro

Can im sacrifice my opponent attachments -poppy craven etc- to trigger this agenda reaction? Thanks for helping me out.

City Gates
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Jul 07 2018 01:28 PM by jumbles

"No more than 1 card in total with the limited keyword can be marshaled (or played, if the card is an event) by each player each round. No more than 1 limited card can be placed by each player during setup. Limited cards that are “put into play” via card effects ignore and are ignored by this restriction" (RRp12).

 

The card is not an Event, so the Limited keyword only applies to marshaling this card. The action can be played without any restriction from the Limited keyword.

Maester Luwin
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Jul 06 2018 10:56 PM by Schegoggs
Thank you so much!
City Gates
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Jul 06 2018 09:28 PM by Toper

Rules say:

 

No more than 1 card in total with the limited keyword can be marshaled (or played, if the card is an event) by each player each round.

The card's not being marshalled and it's not a played event, so it wouldn't count toward the limit.

City Gates
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Jul 06 2018 07:02 PM by daviduk2000
Does using the action on this card count as your limited card this turn? because it is a discard from hand action is it technically not being played then?
Maester Luwin
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Jul 06 2018 06:59 PM by daviduk2000
No. All characters are hit by the effect at the same time, then die at the same time. Simultaneously. So maester luwin Will protect Bran.