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Boba Fett
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Aug 27 2015 10:41 PM by pantsyg

Red 2 can end an engagement unfocused, if the objective he is engaged with is destroyed by unopposed damage. 

Boba Fett
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Aug 27 2015 09:54 PM by Penh72
Red 2 is a similar deal (although it triggers when an objective is destroyed, so he could be in 2 different engagements in one turn if you blow an objective up in between the two)
Boba Fett
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Aug 27 2015 08:17 PM by DiscoReViVaL

You have it right: Boba cannot use his Reaction to end an engagement unfocused. If he uses it, he must strike again within the same engagement.

I thought so, thanks for confirming it. I must say, I've seen a lot of people abusing the Fett in the wrong kinda way.

Boba Fett
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Aug 27 2015 07:08 PM by dbmeboy
You have it right: Boba cannot use his Reaction to end an engagement unfocused. If he uses it, he must strike again within the same engagement.
Boba Fett
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Aug 27 2015 03:00 PM by DiscoReViVaL

I'm still confused about his reaction. I understand that he can strike twice during an engagement by removing all focus tokens on him. But is it possible for Boba to come out of an engagement unfocussed? On first thought it might be an easy yes but let me explain my confusion.

 

The rulebook states

 

(Page 23): After all units participating in the engagement are exhausted (either by striking, by receiving a focus token during a tactics icon resolution, or by other card effects), the resolve strikes step is over.

 

(page 20 ): If a player has at least one ready participating unit, it must focus to strike.

 

So basically an engagement cannot end until all units involved are exhausted. And I’m assuming that reactions are resolved immediately after the trigger and that the reaction  must be resolved before a new strike, action or phase can begin.

 

Taking that into account, would the following scenario be correct?

  1. Boba is the last (or only) unit to strike in an engagement.
  2. His strike resolves and as a reaction to this resolution he removes all focus.
  3. But now there is still an unfocussed unit in the engagement so the engagement cannot end and Boba is forced to strike again.

So it is my understanding that it is impossible for Boba to come out of an engagement ready to strike again in a different engagement (by using his reaction at least).

Is this logic sound or am I totally missing something?

 

Thanks in advance

Sate Pestage
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Aug 27 2015 01:18 PM by spellfire

Rgr, thanks.

Sate Pestage
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Aug 25 2015 06:30 PM by theChony

No, since it's an interrupt, Sate hasn't made it to the discard yet. Reactions, however, resolve after the triggering condition.

Sate Pestage
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Aug 25 2015 06:29 PM by Majestaat

Because it's an Interrupt, Sate's not in your discard pile yet.

If it was a reaction, I think it would be possible.

Join Me
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Aug 25 2015 05:38 PM by Arkard

Seems like a great splash for a deck with 2x The Imperial Bureaucracy (and Palpatine).

Sate Pestage
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Aug 25 2015 04:34 PM by spellfire

Can Sate's interrupt be used to return him to hand, or does the timing not work?

Keyan Farlander
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Aug 23 2015 12:04 PM by MasterJediAdam

so moldy crow wouldn't work cause of the white blast.

It depends. There is an action window after edge resolves, so you could wait to see if you win edge and then use the ability.

Keyan Farlander
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Aug 22 2015 06:18 PM by Majestaat

so moldy crow wouldn't work cause of the white blast.

That's right. You could focus Keyan to strike before the edge, but you wouldn't be dealing any damage with Moldy Crow.

Keyan Farlander
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Aug 22 2015 06:03 PM by life

so moldy crow wouldn't work cause of the white blast.

Darth Vader
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Aug 19 2015 12:20 AM by GreyLeader

There was an official FFG ruling that said fate card effects are cancelled by Vader, but any icons would still count for the edge battle.  Can't link for some reason but it's in the official ruling thread.

Thanks for the tip, I copied the post I believe you were refering to, (page nine of the thread):

 

 

Rules Question:
How does the new Darth Vader (Pilot (2) (While enhanced unit is participating in an engagement, an opponent cannot initiate card effects)) interact with 1. Passive Card Text 2. Keywords (including targeted strike, edge etc) 3. Fate Cards including twist of fate Basically does Vader stop all of those things?
Hi Stephen,
 
When Darth Vader’s ability is active (i.e. he’s piloting something and participating in the engagement), anything that has a point of initiation cannot be initiated. This stops:
 
-Any triggered ability (i.e. anything that starts with “Action” “Reaction” or “Interrupt” (Or any “Forced” version of the preceding three types)
-Any passive ability that has a point of initiation. This category mostly includes Fate cards, which would initiate at when you reach their priority number.
-Any keyword that has a particular point at which it initiates (the relevant keywords that Darth Vader stops are: shielding, protect, and targeted strike).
 
Things that Darth Vader’s ability does *NOT* stop:
-Constant passive abilities (passives that don’t “turn on” at any particular point).
-Keywords that are constant (the only relevant one during an engagement is “edge”)
 
Hope that helps!

--
Erik Dahlman
LCG Developer
Fantasy Flight Games
Darth Vader
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Aug 18 2015 09:01 PM by dbmeboy

Nothing in the "I'll take them myself" newsletter mentions fate cards being cancelled. Only event cards and triggered effects were specifically mentioned. After it is like the tutorial said; "You cannot escape your destiny."

Also, the release articles are useful but not exhaustive explanations of rules (and occasionally inaccurate... you can ask the X-Wing players how often their release articles contain some sort of mistake and have to get fixed.

Darth Vader
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Aug 18 2015 08:54 PM by yodaman

There was an official FFG ruling that said fate card effects are cancelled by Vader, but any icons would still count for the edge battle.  Can't link for some reason but it's in the official ruling thread.

Darth Vader
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Aug 18 2015 04:46 PM by GreyLeader

Stops all event cards and all fate cards. Stops triggered abilities on enhancements, but not constant abilities as those don't initiate.

Nothing in the "I'll take them myself" newsletter mentions fate cards being cancelled. Only event cards and triggered effects were specifically mentioned. After it is like the tutorial said; "You cannot escape your destiny."

Hidden Backup
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Aug 18 2015 04:41 PM by GreyLeader

Units are only defenders when they are participating in an engagement on your opponent's turn. This lets you bring any ready unit into the engagement from outside the engagement with the action. There is an action window between each strike, so you can bring in the unit with this after all your defending units are focused (from tactics or striking) or destroyed. It also lets you get around some cards like Blockade Runner or Sleuth Scout which prevent you from declaring defenders but not from bringing them in via actions like this one.

Good catch! I was thinking all ready units were defenders when I would be on the defenseive, and not *ready defenders.*

Darth Vader
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Aug 18 2015 04:25 PM by dbmeboy

So darth vader pilot stops shielding, protect, targeted strike. does it stop event cards and fate cards? also how about enhancements on units?

Stops all event cards and all fate cards. Stops triggered abilities on enhancements, but not constant abilities as those don't initiate.
Darth Vader
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Aug 18 2015 03:20 PM by life

So darth vader pilot stops shielding, protect, targeted strike. does it stop event cards and fate cards? also how about enhancements on units? 



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