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[MotoBuzzsawMF]

I will look up the lore on them. Sounds interesting.

[Toqtamish]

thought that all the loyal ones were either in the grave, or vanished into myth (like Russ).

There is one that is not dead or missing.

[BobaFett]

Robute Guilliman is the only loyal primarch not dead or missing, he is however in stasis after being fatally poisoned, and has remained in stasis for over 10,000 years.

Funnily enough, most of the traitor primarchs are all still alive. I guess good guys always do finish last....

[Toqtamish]

Robute Guilliman is the only loyal primarch not dead or missing, he is however in stasis after being fatally poisoned, and has remained in stasis for over 10,000 years.

Funnily enough, most of the traitor primarchs are all still alive. I guess good guys always do finish last....

Not Roboute I was referring to. He used to be dead and in stasis and supposedly healing although I see now they changed that to he's between life and death and in stasis.

Lion El'Jonson is the Primarch I meant.

[BobaFett]

Similar situations. The lion is supposedly
"Sleeping" in stasis, until a time of need. Although that has changed a few times. DA were my first army (deathwing to be exact) back in the mid 90's and still are to this day and they've had alot of fluff changes over the years.

[Toqtamish]

According to things now in 6th edition codex. No stasis. He's just sleeping inside the Rock with the Watchers in the Dark. Same as the 2nd edition Angels of Death codex fluff about him.

[BobaFett]

Well I wish he'd wake up so I could get a model of him and use him in my DW army, because they are terrible and need all the help they can get!!

[Pipes]

Well I wish he'd wake up so I could get a model of him and use him in my DW army, because they are terrible and need all the help they can get!!

So you're saying he's no good to you dead?

[BobaFett]

What if he doesn't survive? He's worth a lot to me.

[Ironswimsuit]

The Ultra Marines in their unflagging loyalty to the so called emperor cannot see that their perceived solidarity is the stone in the ocean of the galaxy, providing ripples to fuel the machinations of the Master of the Thousand and One Plots.

[HoopJones]

Two words: Space. Smurfs.

[TaranWanderer]

I wonder if GW will give FFG permission to make their own Space Marine chapter, like the Blood Ravens in Dawn of War. Not that they need to, but it might be neat.

[Toqtamish]

I wonder if GW will give FFG permission to make their own Space Marine chapter, like the Blood Ravens in Dawn of War. Not that they need to, but it might be neat.

FFG already has for their Deathwatch RPG, The Storm Wardens.

[BobaFett]

IMO i really hope they just use the chapters that already exist. there is plenty of them, and they all havedifferent varieties and flavors from chapter to chapter so i think there is plenty there. I'd rather them concentrate on adding in the rest of the factions with deluxes and such.

[dboeren]

If they already have the Storm Wardens then I have no beef with them reusing those, but I agree that they shouldn't make them up in droves. One is enough.

[Asklepios]

I think one interesting thing about the Ultramarines that isn't well represented in the tabletop game rules is that they're not just noble, tactically brilliant straight-down-the-line codex marines. They're also autonomous rulers of Ultramar, which is an Empire within an Empire, and represents the Imperium at its best.

I'd like to see the LCG reflecting this in some way, perhaps with cards to represent their administrative ability, the discipline of the Ultramar non-marine regiments, the strong logistics base of Ultramar, and so on.

[wyrmw00d]

There's a lot of great Chapters with amazing lore but the Ultramarines, being the prototypical Adeptus Astartes, get more love than the others in games and coverage (e.g. "Space Marines" video game, "Ultramarines" CGI film, etc.) I have nothing against them, they serve as a standard from which other, more "divergent" Chapters can be measured by, but it would be nice to see more media based on some of them. The "Dawn of War" series is one of the few exceptions to the rule, focusing on the Blood Ravens Chapter which was created just for that line of games, and even their lore is about a thousand times more interesting than that of the Ultramarines.

I've always been partial to the secretive and brooding Dark Angels myself, but each Chapter has their own inherent points of interest and strengths/weaknesses that makes them unique. The Ultramarines only real uniqueness is the well-publicized fact that they are NOT unique.

[wyrmw00d]

FFG already has for their Deathwatch RPG, The Storm Wardens.

Forgot about the Storm Wardens, they're pretty "vanilla" as well, in my opinion. The "create your own Chapter" stuff present in the Deathwatch RPG is amazingly fun, however. I can spend hours just creating my own Chapters for fun, the same as I could spend hours creating houses for the Song of Ice and Fire RPG by Green Ronin.