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[Etaywah]

Bigga Is Betta:
Interrupt: When you deploy an {O} unit, reduce its cost by 2. Deal 1 damage to that unit after it enters play.

Nullify:
Interrupt: When your opponent plays an event card, exhaust a unique {E} unit to cancel its effects.

Say you cannot afford a 3 cost without Bigga Is Betta. You pay 1 resource, then you reduce by 2, dealing 1 damage to deploy.

Eldar opponent uses Nullify on Bigga is Betta.

What happens here?

Edited by Toqtamish, 20 November 2014 - 03:04 AM.
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[PBrennan]

Best Answer

Bigga Is Betta interrupts the deployment as a whole, creating a lasting effect of a cost reduction of 2 plus dealing it 1 damage.

 

Nullify then interrupts the playing of Bigga Is Betta, cancelling this lasting effect. Nullify does not cancel the playing of Bigga Is Betta, it just cancels its effect. So the resource cost of Bigga Is Betta is still paid (though it be 0 in this case), any ability cost it had would still be resolved (none in this case), and BIB is discarded.

 

Once these interrupts to deployment have resolved, the original deployment then continues. Once you get to step 3 pf the deployment process (RRG pp 8-9), there are now no cost reductions to apply. At step 4:

 

- If you can't pay the deployment cost, the deployment attempt fails. You do not have to pay what resources you have - you either pay the full cost and deploy the unit or pay nothing and don't deploy the unit. You are also not obliged to use other cost reducers if you have them.

 

- If you can still pay the deployment cost with the resources you have, the deployment must continue. The process has started after all. But you gain the benefit that you no longer need to deal the unit 1 damage (because Nullify also cancelled this aspect of the effect.).

 

The following tutorial provides more detail on how the ability/deployment initiation process works:

http://www.cardgamed...n-interactions/

[KennedyHawk]

So if this is cancelled and you can not afford the unit does it take up your deployment action. Or do you get another go?

[PBrennan]

RRG 1.2 states:

On a deployment turn a player must do one of the following:
- deploy one card from his hand
- initiate one action ability (see page 3)
- pass

 

If a deployment is cancelled, then you've not successfully completed one of the options (which you must do) and therefore your deployment turn is not over. You must either initiate another deployment, or initiate an action, or pass.

(This has now been confirmed by the design team.)

[spectre]

I have a follow-up question:

 

 

- If you can still pay the deployment cost however, the deployment must continue. The process has started after all. But you gain the benefit that you no longer need to deal the unit 1 damage (because Nullify also cancelled this aspect of the effect.)

 

How do any other cost reducers factor into this? Do I have to use Bigtoof Banana if able, or do we only check the available resources?

[PBrennan]

Only the available resources. I've updated the best answer to reflect that if a cost reducer is cancelled, and you don't have the available resources, there is no obligation to use other cost reducers if you have them.