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The Scourge Warpack Kugath

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#21
Asmoridin

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Morkai Rune Priest 15
Fenrisian Wolf 16 
Iron Guard Recruits 15
Dozer Blade 12
Inquisitorial Fortress 17 (+1)
Attack Squig Herd 12
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 19
Kustom Field Generator 16
Klaivex Warleader 19
Bladed Lotus Rifle 6

Soul Seizure 9
Black Guardians 15
Death from Above 6 (-3)
Dome of Crystal Seers 15
Bork'an Recruits 15

Kauyon Strike 16

 

Downvoted Death From Above.  I think it'll have a place, eventually, but I don't think it has a place yet.

 

Upvoted Inquisitorial Fortress.  I like having such a decent control element available for AM.



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Morkai Rune Priest 15
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 15
Dozer Blade 12
Inquisitorial Fortress 17
Attack Squig Herd 9 (-3)
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 19
Kustom Field Generator 16
Klaivex Warleader 19
Bladed Lotus Rifle 6
Soul Seizure 9
Black Guardians 15
Death from Above 6
Dome of Crystal Seers 15
Bork'an Recruits 16 (+1)
Kauyon Strike 16

Recruits deserve an upvote, cost 2 for a unit with such good stats (guaranteed to have the boost when fighting except at first planet) is very efficient, in Tau or as an ally.

Attack Squig Herd - I can't see myself wanting this when the Manly Kans and Burna Boyz are options for the same cost - sure they have less hit points, but they are comparable or better in attack and have command. Unless there is a whole load of synergy with Zogwort we haven't seen it doesn't look great.

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Morkai Rune Priest 15
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 15
Dozer Blade 12
Inquisitorial Fortress 17
Attack Squig Herd 9 
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 19
Kustom Field Generator 16
Klaivex Warleader 19
Bladed Lotus Rifle 6
Soul Seizure 6 (-3)
Black Guardians 15
Death from Above 6
Dome of Crystal Seers 15
Bork'an Recruits 17 (+1)
Kauyon Strike 16

 

I like the Bor'kan recruits because they work nicely with both Shadowsun and Aun'Shi. Shadowsun gives you a 6/4 unit with a single free cadre attachment, and Aun'Shi's synergy is obvious. Tau at the moment seem able to take advantage of the Warlord groupie cards slightly more than other factions.

 

Soul Seizure gets hit for the exact opposite reason. I dislike a Non-Signature card that is so clearly meant to work with just a single warlord. Maybe upcoming DE torture cards will change this but the future is another country.

 

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Attack Squig Herd - I can't see myself wanting this when the Manly Kans and Burna Boyz are options for the same cost - sure they have less hit points, but they are comparable or better in attack and have command. Unless there is a whole load of synergy with Zogwort we haven't seen it doesn't look great.

I bet you're all about the Manly Kans ;)



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Morkai Rune Priest 12 (-3)
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 15
Dozer Blade 12
Inquisitorial Fortress 18 (+1)
Attack Squig Herd 9 
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 19
Kustom Field Generator 16
Klaivex Warleader 19
Bladed Lotus Rifle 6
Soul Seizure 6
Black Guardians 15
Death from Above 6
Dome of Crystal Seers 15
Bork'an Recruits 17
Kauyon Strike 16

 

The fortress is strong, maybe not as strong as Archon's Terror, but close enough. And it boosts a bit Infantry Conscripts and Enginseer Augur which are 2 cards that I like. 

The priest is pretty bad in my opinion. Even in a full Space Wolves deck its ability is worse than a simple Area Effect (1).



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Morkai Rune Priest 12
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 16 (+1)
Dozer Blade 9 (-3)
Inquisitorial Fortress 18
Attack Squig Herd 9 
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 19
Kustom Field Generator 16
Klaivex Warleader 19
Bladed Lotus Rifle 6
Soul Seizure 6
Black Guardians 15
Death from Above 6
Dome of Crystal Seers 15
Bork'an Recruits 17
Kauyon Strike 16

 

Another cheap 2 command is something that the AM really needed.  I'm a bit surprised that I'm the only one who has downvoted this card, but Dozer blade gets another one from me.  Deck space is too tight to waste on something like this.



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Morkai Rune Priest 12
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 16
Dozer Blade 9
Inquisitorial Fortress 18
Attack Squig Herd 9 
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 19
Kustom Field Generator 17 (+1)
Klaivex Warleader 19
Bladed Lotus Rifle 6
Soul Seizure 6
Black Guardians 15
Death from Above 6
Dome of Crystal Seers 12 (-3)
Bork'an Recruits 17
Kauyon Strike 16

 

Upvoted Kustom Field Generator as it really helps leverage Nazdreg's ability, as well as protect him from a hefty attack once per turn.

 

Downvoted Dome of Crystal Seers as it just seems really bad to me.  Pay a card and resource to dig a little bit further into your deck?  No worth it.  Hopefully in the future there will be more cards for it to interact with (at the moment there is Swordwind Farseer, Earth Caste Technician and Elouith), but until then it is very narrow in its use.



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Morkai Rune Priest 12
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 16
Dozer Blade 6
Inquisitorial Fortress 18
Attack Squig Herd 9
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 19
Kustom Field Generator 17
Klaivex Warleader 20 (+1)
Bladed Lotus Rifle 3 (-3)
Soul Seizure 6
Black Guardians 15
Death from Above 6
Dome of Crystal Seers 12
Bork'an Recruits 17
Kauyon Strike 16

Bladed Lotus Rifle doesn't do much - at least until we get more Kabalites that aren't already ranged.

Klaivex Warleader looks like fun - even if it is telegraphed.

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Klaivex Warleader is the MVP of this pack, hands down.  Just came from a 13 person tournament with 2 Kith in the top 4 primarily because of this card.  This was against a field of 5 Space Marines (1 Ragnar, 4 Cato) which Kith is "bad" against and 2 Ork players running Dakka Dakka Dakka!.  The amount of denials (not just card) you can get with this guy, Archon's Palace, Twisted Lab, and Archon's Terror is truly insane.


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Morkai Rune Priest 12
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 16
Dozer Blade 6
Inquisitorial Fortress 18
Attack Squig Herd 9
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 19
Kustom Field Generator 17
Klaivex Warleader 20
Bladed Lotus Rifle ELIMINATED (-3)
Soul Seizure 6
Black Guardians 15
Death from Above 6
Dome of Crystal Seers 12
Bork'an Recruits 18 (+1)
Kauyon Strike 16

 

Bork'an Recruits are a nice 2 drop for Tau and give a nice bonus for moving your Warlord to their location.  It is also a nice incentive to keep enemy warlord's away, making an opponent think twice before trying to snipe them with their warlord.  I'm going to eliminate Bladed Lotus Rifle for the reasons that everyone (including me) has stated.



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Morkai Rune Priest 12
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 16
Dozer Blade 6
Inquisitorial Fortress 18
Attack Squig Herd 9
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 20 (+1)
Kustom Field Generator 17
Klaivex Warleader 20
Soul Seizure 3 (-3)
Black Guardians 15
Death from Above 6
Dome of Crystal Seers 12
Bork'an Recruits 18 
Kauyon Strike 16

Soul Seizure- expensive and situational

Dakka- What everyone else said. And because it says Dakka Dakka Dakka!



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Morkai Rune Priest 12
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 16
Dozer Blade 6
Inquisitorial Fortress 19 +1 
Attack Squig Herd 9
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 20 (+1)
Kustom Field Generator 17
Klaivex Warleader 20
Soul Seizure 3 (-3)
Black Guardians 15
Death from Above 6
Dome of Crystal Seers 9 -3
Bork'an Recruits 18 
Kauyon Strike 16

 

Dome of Crystal seer... something you don't really want to see when you are being outnumbered.

Inq. for. because it's another archon terror.



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Morkai Rune Priest 12
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 16
Dozer Blade 6
Inquisitorial Fortress 19
Attack Squig Herd 9
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 20
Kustom Field Generator 17
Klaivex Warleader 20
Soul Seizure 0 (-3)
Black Guardians 15 (+1)
Death from Above 6
Dome of Crystal Seers 9
Bork'an Recruits 18 
Kauyon Strike 16

 

Sorry Soul Seizure but it's time for you to go.  Too expensive as I've already said.  

 

Black Guardians can have a boost though.  A much-needed cheap combat body for Eldar.  The downside is no Command but with Superiority, Biel-Tan Guardians, Soaring Falcon, etc., as well as Eldorath's ability and Foresight, command struggles aren't too difficult to win.  It's battles that Eldar struggle in and Black Guardians fill a hole.



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Black Guardians can have a boost though.  A much-needed cheap combat body for Eldar.  The downside is no Command but with Superiority, Biel-Tan Guardians, Soaring Falcon, etc., as well as Eldorath's ability and Foresight, command struggles aren't too difficult to win.  It's battles that Eldar struggle in and Black Guardians fill a hole.

 

 

Would add up to 16 for the BG's!

 

Morkai Rune Priest 12
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 16
Dozer Blade 3 (-3)
Inquisitorial Fortress 19 
Attack Squig Herd 9
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 21 (+1)
Kustom Field Generator 17
Klaivex Warleader 20
Black Guardians 16
Death from Above 6
Dome of Crystal Seers 9 
Bork'an Recruits 18 
Kauyon Strike 16

 

A minus for the DOAZAR BLATHE, because I simply don't like it. Even though it costs 0, adds to HP and looks stupid on a Valkyrie.

 

A upper for the DDD!



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Would add up to 16 for the BG's!

Whoops!  I can do maths.  Honest!


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Whoops!  I can do maths.  Honest!

 

No worries, it happens to me aswell.

 

It's funny also, as everytime I contribute I feel it's harder to pick the +1 target (or the card needs it less) as the -3 target.

Which in turn often means you'll focus more on getting it down.

 

If the process wasn't so slow (thus going to 12 means -6 and 6 -9) I think elimination threads also would work fine when going +0/-3 until it reaches the top 10/6 again.



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Morkai Rune Priest 13 (+1)
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 16
Dozer Blade 0 (-3)
Inquisitorial Fortress 19 
Attack Squig Herd 9
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 21
Kustom Field Generator 17
Klaivex Warleader 20
Black Guardians 15
Death from Above 6
Dome of Crystal Seers 9 
Bork'an Recruits 18 
Kauyon Strike 16

 

Dozer blade is gone because I don't see enough use right now. Hopefully in the future.

Warpriest is an annoying card to play against and I this it is very solid in a Ragnar hunt deck.



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Klaivex Warleader is the MVP of this pack, hands down.  Just came from a 13 person tournament with 2 Kith in the top 4 primarily because of this card.  This was against a field of 5 Space Marines (1 Ragnar, 4 Cato) which Kith is "bad" against and 2 Ork players running Dakka Dakka Dakka!.  The amount of denials (not just card) you can get with this guy, Archon's Palace, Twisted Lab, and Archon's Terror is truly insane.

 

Just from octgn and small meta games for me, but I concur. DE are looking great from the last 2 Warpacks.

 

Kith isn't bad against Cato at all, I have to say. So he can get some resources when he hits your guys. Then what? He has no cards to play and the DE still have a tonne of tricks to remove the SM units that actually threaten trouble.

 

The counter to Cato is to deny him card draw. Turns out the best deck for that is Kith.



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Morkai Rune Priest 13
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 16
Inquisitorial Fortress 19 
Attack Squig Herd 9
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 21
Kustom Field Generator 17
Klaivex Warleader 21 (+1)
Black Guardians 15
Death from Above 3 (-3)
Dome of Crystal Seers 9 
Bork'an Recruits 18 
Kauyon Strike 16
 
+1 to Klaivex Warleader to keep in in line with Dakka Dakka Dakka!  -3 for Death from Above, I really hope this card gets better (it has potential), but right now I wouldn't even run a single copy.


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Morkai Rune Priest 13
Fenrisian Wolf 16
Iron Guard Recruits 16
Inquisitorial Fortress 19 
Attack Squig Herd 6 (-3)
Dakka Dakka Dakka! 21
Kustom Field Generator 17
Klaivex Warleader 22 (+1)
Black Guardians 15
Death from Above 3
Dome of Crystal Seers 9 
Bork'an Recruits 18 
Kauyon Strike 16
 
Warleader single-handedly defeated me this past weekend.  That card is amazing.
 
Downvoted Squig Herd.  Not bad, but not great either.






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