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#241
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I can't believe the last time I posted on this thread was 4 April. Oh Lanni Deck Thread, how I have neglected you. =p In my crusade to try to get CGDB back to its glory days of hobby centrality, I thought it best to post some thoughts on the GNK I just attended here whilst on the train back.

So today I chose Lanni Crossing because (a) I wanted to test Shae and Boy King with Ilyn (haven't played Lanni in this cycle) and (b} it was at the home ground of my Nemesis, the UK Nats Champ (so no point playing jank). My record against him was 4-1 before this (each game we have played a different faction/agenda) with my only victory with Lanni Wolf when he was very unlucky. It was hard building a new good deck to play against him but settled on "Lanni Knights" because of 2 new cards to test (and because I had mentioned Lanni Crossing in the Best Control Decks thread).

LANNI KNIGHTS
Lord of the Crossing

Varys' Riddle
Trading with the Pentoshi
Winter Festival x2
First Snow of Winter
Marched to the Wall
Counting Coppers

3 reducer
3 burned men
3 red cloaks
3 hedge knights
1 tickler
1 shae
1 hound
3 raiders
1 cersei
1 littlefinger
1 syrio
3 tyrion
3 ilyn
3 jaime
3 gregor
3 tywin

3 milk
1 wail
1 boy king
1 seal

9 limited

3 sword
3 tears
3 treachery

Once you accept Ilyn for Boy King, then Hedge Knights seemed an obvious way to efficiently shore up your missing power icon (12 Knights in total). And Boy King was stellar in such an aggressive rush with event and character ability kill.

I was worried about Shae with Blade out (she's also Ilyn fodder) and even faced a Martell during the 4 rounds but she was stellar in Crossing, well worth x1 in every Lanni Crossing deck forever.

The mindgames over Riddle and Trading were fun, especially as I anticipated Naval would leave the meta due to Seasons. Riddle also allowed me to risk 1 character set up (like Tywin + Kingsroad) as nobody sets up more than 2 characters these days and I'll take Riddle (5 gold, 7 reserve) vs Marched (4 gold, 5 reserve) on an empty board anyday. Riddle has removed the need to be more balanced in your build for set up, thereby accentuating the big guy meta. If only First Snow didn't exist...

There was a feeling of inevitability that we would meet in the final again. Of course a great player like my Nemesis would never be easily fooled and did not fall into my trap by opening Riddle (he had it) to my Trading. He also anticipated my First Snow perfectly (even knowing I had 2 burned men, I'd caught him out before) and although I got 3 good Plot flips (my Festivals skipped his Summer plots then I Riddle his Close Call), his start put me too much on the defensive and I didn't really see my main characters until too late. Whilst any Crossing is a good match-up for his build (I don't want to say more as it is a very good deck idea that's not known), he outplayed me 15-10. My deck is very solid, just the pilot needs to practice outside of tourneys. Another second but lessons learnt.

So what did I learn today?

Riddle allows you to play an unbalanced build like above, the 3 Winter plots means you can go back to the Swiss Army Knife build of 3x Sword, 3x Tears, 3x Milk (for dupes) that can be delivered via Crossing. As Crossing is primarily a Rush build (Festival x2) but this type of Lanni Crossing brings Aggro-Control to the mix, both Shae and Boy King fit perfectly here. So by combining all 3 vertices of the triangle, Aggro, Rush and Control, the build feels supremely versatile to Rush vs Control, Aggro vs Rush or Control vs Aggro, to adopt the right approach dependent on opponent.

Give it a try. It plays smooth.
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#242
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Lions of Castely Rock is out on the Streets and the Lannister Thread lies dead in the gutter al the same? So I will dance the Qyburn dance and sing: "Rise Lannister Thread Rise, for what was dead will pay it's debts"



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Tried a Lannister/Rains deck. Had some trouble with Martell but I felt like that was more because I couldn't draw an economy location than anything. Got blown out by a surprise Moon Brothers for a PTTS + 2 Claim against another Lannister/Rains (but I think the use of Rains was a diversion).

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I'm having a go with this deck. Not a tier 1 by any stretch, more a "Dumb Fun Deck".

Who doesn't like having the Mountain going into 2 challenges in a turn...

Lannister


Agenda: (1)
1x Kings of Summer (Called to Arms)

Plot: (7)
1x A Song of Summer (Wolves of the North)
1x Confiscation (Core Set)
1x Calm Over Westeros (Core Set)
1x Summer Harvest (Called to Arms)
2x Close Call (True Steel)
1x Varys’s Riddle (Across the Seven Kingdoms)

Character: (36)
1x Alayaya (Lions of Casterly Rock)
1x Bronn (Calm Over Westeros)
3x Burned Men (Core Set)
1x Chella Daughter of Cheyk (Lions of Casterly Rock)
2x Grand Maester Pycelle (Core Set)
1x Hot Pie (For Family Honor)
3x Lannisport Merchant (Core Set)
1x Littlefinger (Core Set)
2x Rattleshirt’s Raiders (Core Set)
3x Red Cloaks (No Middle Ground)
1x Ser Amory Lorch (For Family Honor)
3x Ser Gregor Clegane (The King's Peace)
1x Ser Jaime Lannister (Core Set)
1x Ser Kevan Lannister (Lions of Casterly Rock)
1x Ser Lancel Lannister (Lions of Casterly Rock)
2x The Hound (Taking the Black)
1x Tommen Baratheon (Lions of Casterly Rock)
3x Tyrion Lannister (Core Set)
3x Tywin Lannister (Lions of Casterly Rock)
2x Varys (Core Set)

Attachment: (7)
3x Appointed (Lions of Casterly Rock)
2x Bodyguard (Core Set)
2x Milk of the Poppy (Core Set)

Event: (9)
2x Put to the Sword (Core Set)
2x Tears of Lys (Core Set)
2x The Council Consents (Lions of Casterly Rock)
3x Treachery (Core Set)

Location: (9)
3x The Kingsroad (Core Set)
3x The Roseroad (Core Set)
3x Western Fiefdom (Core Set)

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Has anyone tried the clansman deck? Not sure if it works but should be fun.



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Wow, is Isle of Ravens ever amazing in a Jumper deck! 2x!



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Wow, is Isle of Ravens ever amazing in a Jumper deck! 2x!

So many locations, soo little deck space.



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Yup, the location set is really tight. What do you guys think about the following;

- 3 Fiefdoms

- 3 Kingsroads

- 1 Goldroad

- 3 Harrenhal

- 1 Tower of the Hand

- 2 Shadowblack

- 2 Isles

 

Makes 15 in total, which I have found to be a reasonable number.



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Yup, the location set is really tight. What do you guys think about the following;
- 3 Fiefdoms
- 3 Kingsroads
- 1 Goldroad
- 3 Harrenhal
- 1 Tower of the Hand
- 2 Shadowblack
- 2 Isles
 
Makes 15 in total, which I have found to be a reasonable number.


In a non-Clansmen themed jumper deck I'm testing:
9 economy
2 Isles
2 Harrenhall
2 Tower of the Hand

So far I haven't missed Shadowblack.

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In a non-Clansmen themed jumper deck I'm testing:
9 economy
2 Isles
2 Harrenhall
2 Tower of the Hand

So far I haven't missed Shadowblack.

If you start whiffing on INBAMF, you will.

EDIT: Oh, that's right Isle of Ravens will also reshuffle. But Shadowblack fetches you INBAMF and shuffles. Maybe one each?

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How are people's Jumping decks currently constructed?  I'm using the following build, but don't have much experience in the Valar meta:

 

Jumping Lions
 
House Lannister
The Lord of the Crossing
 
Plots
1x Confiscation (Core Set)
1x Counting Coppers (Core Set)
1x Marched to the Wall (Core Set)
1x Trading with the Pentoshi (The Road to Winterfell)
1x The First Snow of Winter (No Middle Ground)
1x Close Call (True Steel)
1x Summer Harvest (Called to Arms)
 
Characters
2x Cersei Lannister (Core Set)
1x Grand Maester Pycelle (Core Set)
3x Ser Jaime Lannister (Core Set)
1x The Tickler (Core Set)
3x Tyrion Lannister (Core Set)
3x Tywin Lannister (Core Set)
3x Burned Men (Core Set)
1x Gold Cloaks (Core Set)
3x Lannisport Merchant (Core Set)
3x The Hound (Taking the Black)
2x Ser Gregor Clegane (The King's Peace)
1x Ser Ilyn Payne (True Steel)
1x Shae (Called to Arms)
1x Ser Amory Lorch (For Family Honor)
1x Timett Son of Timett (Lions of Casterly Rock)
2x Ser Gregor's Marauders (Lions of Casterly Rock)
1x Taena Merryweather (Lions of Casterly Rock)
3x Lannisport Guard (Lions of Casterly Rock)
 
Locations
3x The Kingsroad (Core Set)
3x The Roseroad (Core Set)
3x Western Fiefdom (Core Set)
1x Tower of the Hand (Wolves of the North)
1x Harrenhal (For Family Honor)
2x Isle of Ravens (There Is My Claim)
 
Events
2x Put to the Sword (Core Set)
2x Tears of Lys (Core Set)
3x Hear Me Roar! (Core Set)
3x Treachery (Core Set)
3x I Never Bet Against My Family (The King's Peace)






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