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I added the spoiler tags after he quoted it. I didn't realize there were spoiler tags on this forum until ScionMattly used them.
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Sorry, that was my fault.
I added the spoiler tags after he quoted it. I didn't realize there were spoiler tags on this forum until ScionMattly used them.
Hooray, I'm helping!
I'm having a wonderful time!
Is that because of the UK implications of the word "bird"?
In Puerto Rico, the Spanish word "pajarito" which is the diminutive version of "pajaro" which means bird has been used for as long as I know as a pseudonym for infomants. The phrase "un pajarito me dijo" (a little bird told me) is used a lot colloquially."Little Bird" has been a colloquialism for "informant" from where I am in the UK for the duration of my life, my mother's life and her mother's. Probably long before that.
Having it give people an intruige icon seems completely on point to me.
I guess i don't find it any more disruptive than a Stark/Lannister deck having Ice and Widows Wail on the same character.
Regarding the name of the icon attachments. One thing to know is that those were the names of the original icon attachments from the first ever A Game of Thrones release Westeros Edition. So while there have been more nedly names in later versions of icon attachments what they have gone for instead is honoring the cards from the original release which they have done with lots of cards in this first cycle.
For fun I did a check of what the icon attachments have been named over the years and this is the results:
Westeros Edition:
Syrio's Training
Little Bird
Noble Lineage
Ice and Fire Edition:
Court Soldier
Court Messenger
Court Advisor
Valyrian Edition:
Fighting Lessons
Secret Lessons
Etiquette Lessons
Winter Edition:
Born to Kill
Raised to Lie
Risen to Power
Iron Throne Edition:
Castellan
Counselor
Steward
5 Kings Edition:
The Art of War
The Art of Deception
The Art of Diplomacy
After that they didn't do complete cycles of icon attachments any longer but instead reprinted a few of the old ones.
Yes, "a little bird told me" is a common colloquialism. But in the context of Thrones, "my little birds" is what Varys refers to his network of spies. His network. Which we witness are used quite brutally at the end of book 4.
So now we have Khal Drogo with "A Little Bird" and Balon with "A Little Bird" and Eddard with "A Little Bird" and Old Bear with "A Little Bird". They've all got access to Varys' Network of Spies? Or is this meant colloquially to be they've all got an Informant?
It's just such a specific reference that doesn't work for all hosts.
Apologies, we've totally derailed this thread but I don't think I'm the only one that cringes whenever I say "I give Asha A Little Bird". I know I've had a snigger from a few people referring to the card.
I know I'm not the only person whos gotten wood for sheep in Catan.
For fun I did a check of what the icon attachments have been named over the years and this is the results:
Westeros Edition:
Syrio's Training
Little Bird
Noble Lineage
Ice and Fire Edition:
Court Soldier
Court Messenger
Court Advisor...
After that they didn't do complete cycles of icon attachments any longer but instead reprinted a few of the old ones.
Why did they even reprint them if there was no rotation?
These cards were all from the CCG where there was regular rotations. The actual reprints were in the later LCG where they took isolated cards from the CCH and reprinted them. The cards I listed weren't identical all the time. Other than giving an Icon they also tended to have an aditional effect as well like draw a card when it's played, the setup keyword, +1 STR, the ability to move it once per phase etc.
the ability to move it once per phase etc.
Thanks for that extensive list, Ingsve. It was interesting to see the origins of Court Advisor and Art of Diplomacy both in 1.0 when all attachments were terminal and default no set-up. Always good to get the CCG perspective. You're like this hobby sage: "back in the CCG days, young whippersnapper, we had these cards...".
Hehe, ya I've noticed me doing that a lot lately. That's the result of the rare position of having played CCG but missed out on all of the LCG 1.0 while most other players only know the LCG 1.0 cards and none of the CCG history even for the cards that were later reprinted in 1.0.
It's also interesting since the relaunch of 2.0 revisits a lot of the old cards from early CCG so a lot of this stuff get a nostalgic feel as well.
On the subject of "X times per turn" cards - they aren't as much of an issue when the core set gives you generic tokens that can be used as trackers. Conquest, on the other hand, does not have those so it becomes more to remember. But then again, remembering the board position is a skill that anybody wants to be a decent player has to learn.
I was thinking about Horas Redwyne a bit. His ability of standing a Lady character has no limit. This means that every effect that stands him and allows him to do another challenge, effectively stands a Lady too. That makes him super effective in Targaryen Banner Tyrell, where you stand him with Illyrio or Power behind the Throne and then stand Daynerys or Maergery when you use him in a challenge. I am realy looking forward to try to abuse this guy...
I was thinking about Horas Redwyne a bit. His ability of standing a Lady character has no limit. This means that every effect that stands him and allows him to do another challenge, effectively stands a Lady too. That makes him super effective in Targaryen Banner Tyrell, where you stand him with Illyrio or Power behind the Throne and then stand Daynerys or Maergery when you use him in a challenge. I am realy looking forward to try to abuse this guy...
Doesn't this seem a bit win-more? Until we get cheaper one-off stand tech in Targaryen anyway, this combo with Daenarys would cost 7 (Daenarys) + 5 (Illyrio) + 5 (Horas) + 2 (ability), almost 20 gold. It can be interrupted by milk in two places, seems like the safer bet would be run 3x Rhaegal! Admittedly if you can drop Horas in with Queen of Thorns in Tyrell fealty, then it becomes interesting...
Doesn't this seem a bit win-more? Until we get cheaper one-off stand tech in Targaryen anyway, this combo with Daenarys would cost 7 (Daenarys) + 5 (Illyrio) + 5 (Horas) + 2 (ability), almost 20 gold. It can be interrupted by milk in two places, seems like the safer bet would be run 3x Rhaegal! Admittedly if you can drop Horas in with Queen of Thorns in Tyrell fealty, then it becomes interesting...
What people do tend to forget when counting how much a combo costs is that you neither have to play the characters all in one turn and that you also want some of the combo pieces to be in play anyways. Daenarys is the heart-piece of most Targaryen builds and Illyrio is pretty good in a meta that has plenty of Baratheon. I am just saying that Horas makes something that is already pretty solid just a lot better.