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[Asklepios]

Because I couldn't see this thread yet, here it is. Just a placeholder post for now, please do start posting decks and discussion.

[nightcrawlers]

Because I couldn't see this thread yet, here it is. Just a placeholder post for now, please do start posting decks and discussion.

 

I think X3 promotions is a good place to start with him................................

 

 

 

ill see myself out

[estyles]

I'm starting with 3x Leman Russ.  Don't try to talk me out of it, it's like arguing with a brick wall - or a huge tank with heavy bolters and a turret-mounted battle cannon.

[WarfStyxfury]

I like this one, only change the warlord.

 

http://www.cardgamed...ce-col-straken/

[Asklepios]

I'm starting with 3x Leman Russ.  Don't try to talk me out of it, it's like arguing with a brick wall - or a huge tank with heavy bolters and a turret-mounted battle cannon.

 

If you get a working build with that, you got to let us know, as a good number of us are sitting on multiple copies of promo Leman Russes that demand to see play.

[Asklepios]

Ok, lets kick off with something solidly unimaginative:

 

Dere Iz Only Worr

 

Total Cards: (50)

 

Warlord: 

1x Broderick Worr (Decree of Ruin) 

 

Army Unit: (27)

4x Anxious Infantry Platoon (Decree of Ruin)

3x Evil Sunz Warbiker (The Threat Beyond)

3x Iron Guard Recruits (The Scourge)

3x Ratling Deadeye (Core Set)

3x Sanctioned Psyker (Core Set)

3x Snake Bite Thug (The Threat Beyond)

3x Tallarn Raiders (Zogwort's Curse)

2x Captain Markis (Core Set)

3x Steel Legion Chimera (Zogwort's Curse)

 

Attachment: (4)

1x Commissarial Bolt Pistol (Decree of Ruin)

3x Promotion (Core Set)

 

Event: (11)

2x Summary Execution (Decree of Ruin)

3x Preemptive Barrage (Core Set)

3x The Emperor’s Warrant (Descendants of Isha)

3x To Arms! (Gift of the Ethereals)

 

Support: (8)

1x Forward Barracks (Decree of Ruin)

3x Ammo Depot (Gift of the Ethereals)

3x Catachan Outpost (Core Set)

1x Staging Ground

 

 

Yep, its a boring Ammo Depot swarm. 

 

I challenge you to show more imagination than me.

[Majestaat]

I'm a fairly conventional player as well, so nothing interesting to look at...

 

Total Cards: (50)

 

Warlord: 

1x Broderick Worr (Decree of Ruin) 

 

 

Army Unit: (28)

4x Anxious Infantry Platoon (Decree of Ruin)

3x Cadian Mortar Squad (Core Set)

1x Captain Markis (Core Set)

2x Iron Guard Recruits (The Scourge)

3x Ratling Deadeye (Core Set)

3x Sanctioned Psyker (Core Set)

3x Snake Bite Thug (The Threat Beyond)

3x Steel Legion Chimera (Zogwort's Curse)

3x Tallarn Raiders (Zogwort's Curse)

3x Void Pirate (Core Set)

 

Attachment: (5)

1x Commissarial Bolt Pistol (Decree of Ruin)

3x Promotion (Core Set)

1x Goff Big Choppa (Gift of the Ethereals)

 

Event: (13)

2x Summary Execution (Decree of Ruin)

3x Preemptive Barrage (Core Set)

3x Suppressive Fire (Core Set)

3x The Emperor’s Warrant (Descendants of Isha)

2x To Arms! (Gift of the Ethereals)

 

Support: (4)

1x Forward Barracks (Decree of Ruin)

3x Catachan Outpost (Core Set)

 

 

Honorifica Imperialis is a good alternative to Goff Bigg Choppa. One extra shield but more inconsistent since it requires the enemy warlord to be present. Furthermore, there are already a ton of ranged units + Preemptive Barrage. I prefer the Choppa, and could see the deck dropping a Suppressive Fire, maybe, for another one. Ranged + Immunity to Terror is pretty big. Still vulnerable to Starbane tho'.

 

I think there's some tinkering to be done with the unit selection, but nothing serious. Maybe try to squeeze in an extra Markis, and include Warbikers if more punch is needed.

 

Overall, a super standard deck.

[MrWizard]

I could have sworn that there was a dedicated thread for Worr already, but I also can't find it.. Wish there was a search function and/or links to each of the warlord threads. 

 

In terms of the Ammo Depot swarm, do you think it will work better out of Worr rather than Straken or Coteaz? If so, why?

Worr can hit hard, but he's more fragile than the other two IG warlords, so I would be inclined to take IF or Rockrete to protect him. But that would be too many supports and they would probably take Ammo Depot's place. Either way, with so many supports, you can't leverage Ammo Depot to its max because you are less likely to be drawing into and playing events and shields during combat. 

[Asklepios]

For Worr over Straken, I think it's simply that Worr doesn't need to be at the battle planet to offer support, and that means you can afford to run the support-heavy low-shield situation that Ammo Depot decks represent. 

 

As for Worr vs Coteaz on that, I'm not an Ammo Depot player out of Coteaz, as I find the 8 card start is somewhat anergistic with that, even with an 8R start, as cost of cards generally averages higher than 1R.

[Asklepios]

Choppa + Mortar Squad is fun, I got to say. Nice call.

[Koz]

Yeah, Choppa on the Mortar Squad is one of my favorite plays when you can pull it off and was brought up waaaaay back when Choppa was spoiled.  The big drawback to it pre-Worr was that the unit would often just get routed before you could use it, but Worr can mitigate that depending on the planet flop.   

 

I like playing Worr similar to the Cato high/low strategy with lots of cheap cappers and a few more expensive big hitters.  As long as you drop the big units at green planets, they're immune to one of the biggest drawbacks of playing expensive units (routing).  Add in lots of double shields (and possibly Rockcrete's) and you can even keep the Warleader at bay.   

[nightcrawlers]

 

I'm a fairly conventional player as well, so nothing interesting to look at...

 

Total Cards: (50)

 

Warlord: 

1x Broderick Worr (Decree of Ruin) 

 

 

Army Unit: (28)

4x Anxious Infantry Platoon (Decree of Ruin)

3x C...............

 

 

Are you worried about having that many X1?

[palpster]

While I haven't made anything with Worr yet, I feel that just taking any Straken deck and switching out the signature cards sells him short. I'm trying to think of ways to optimize the 'cannot be routed' part of him. Bringing Valkyries or Infantry Conscripts might actually work here...unless the opponent has indomitable in hand, who's gonna send their Warlord to a green planet with an Infantry Conscripts and three supports out (which is pretty reasonable in AM). Scaring warlords away opens up more uses of Emperors Warrant and possibly Hallow Librarium.

While writing this I thought I'd give it a first go. Purely theorycrafting at this point, but I was thinking along these lines:

Broderick Worr

Army (28)
3x 10th Company Scout (Core Set)
4x Anxious Infantry Platoon (Decree of Ruin)
3x Assault Valkyrie (Core Set)
3x Infantry Conscripts (Core Set)
3x Iron Guard Recruits (The Scourge)
3x Ratling Deadeye (Core Set)
3x Sanctioned Psyker (Core Set)
3x Tactical Squad Cardinis (Core Set)
3x Tallarn Raiders (Zogwort's Curse)

Attachment (4)
1x Commissarial Bolt Pistol (Decree of Ruin)
3x Promotion (Core Set)

Event (11)
1x Exterminatus (Core Set)
2x Preemptive Barrage (Core Set)
2x Summary Execution (Decree of Ruin)
3x The Emperor's Warrant (Descendants of Isha)
3x To Arms! (Gift of the Ethereals)

Support (7)
3x Catachan Outpost (Core Set)
1x Forward Barracks (Decree of Ruin)
3x Hallow Librarium (Descendants of Isha)

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[palpster]

Also, I'd love to find room for some Rockcrete Bunkers.....among other things...so many cool cards!!

[Majestaat]

Pick Librarium or Bunker, but both in the same deck seems like overkill. If you want extra protection, a couple Steel Legion Chimeras could do the trick. You probably don't want to run 3x Conscripts anyway, as they need some setup to do their stuff. Early game they're a dead draw.

[refbot]

Worr, What is it Good For?

Broderick Worr

 

Army (29)

4x Anxious Infantry Platoon (Decree of Ruin)

2x Assault Valkyrie (Core Set)

2x Captain Markis (Core Set)

3x Elysian Assault Team (Core Set)

3x Iron Guard Recruits (The Scourge)

2x Mystic Warden (Gift of the Ethereals)

3x Ratling Deadeye (Core Set)

3x Sanctioned Psyker (Core Set)

2x Seraphim Superior Allegra (The Great Devourer)

2x Steel Legion Chimera (Zogwort's Curse)

3x Tallarn Raiders (Zogwort's Curse)

 

Attachment (4)

1x Commissarial Bolt Pistol (Decree of Ruin)

3x Promotion (Core Set)

 

Event (12)

3x Muster the Guard (The Howl of Blackmane)

2x Noble Deed (The Howl of Blackmane)

3x Preemptive Barrage (Core Set)

2x Summary Execution (Decree of Ruin)

2x The Emperor's Warrant (Descendants of Isha)

 

Support (5)

2x Catachan Outpost (Core Set)

1x Forward Barracks (Decree of Ruin)

2x Hallow Librarium (Descendants of Isha)

 

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[Asklepios]

While I haven't made anything with Worr yet, I feel that just taking any Straken deck and switching out the signature cards sells him short. I'm trying to think of ways to optimize the 'cannot be routed' part of him. Bringing Valkyries or Infantry Conscripts might actually work here...unless the opponent has indomitable in hand, who's gonna send their Warlord to a green planet with an Infantry Conscripts and three supports out (which is pretty reasonable in AM). Scaring warlords away opens up more uses of Emperors Warrant and possibly Hallow Librarium.

While writing this I thought I'd give it a first go. Purely theorycrafting at this point, but I was thinking along these lines:
 

 

Ah, I was thinking the same thing on the drive home today: the block on army units retreating is a really big thing.

 

Trying to think how we might abuse this: a shame Worr can't hold a Shining Blade and then pop in opposite a Void Pirate...

 

I wonder if there's any other cards in the pool that could exploit the "as many rounds as you like" thing?

[estyles]

If you get a working build with that, you got to let us know, as a good number of us are sitting on multiple copies of promo Leman Russes that demand to see play.

 
Well, I'm tempted to just make a fairly standard AM deck and throw in Leman Russ as the top end of the cost curve.  Guard doesn't have a ton of indispensable units in the 3 cost range - Cadian Mortar Squad is amazing in Coteaz and Straken, but I could see skipping him in Worr.  And IMO Steel Legion Chimera really shines when combo'd with a Bodyguarded Blood Angel Veteran (or perhaps with Fire Warrior Elite in Starblaze) - otherwise, not that fantastic on its own.  So if you run a bunch of 1 costers, with the only 2 costers being 2-hammer units that you expect to pay for themselves, I think you can afford a strong 5 cost unit, especially since Worr helps mitigate the eggs-in-one-basket problem by making them unroutable at green planets.  Also, I think there's some nice synergy with his signature support when you've got a 6 HP unit.  One conundrum that I also have in my Coteaz deck - whether Snake Bite Thugs are too good to pass up or if I'd rather have Shoota Mob just because of the 1 cost.  I go back and forth.  And I'm not really finding room for both of them if I include Pirates and Traders. (edit: though I forgot about Worr's ability only working on AM units, so maybe neither)
 
On the other hand, I like the idea of trying to build around the Leman Russ and work out as much synergy as possible.  If I did that, I'd probably run a lot of two shield cards to try and counter Klaivex.  Not sure if Fall Back is worth it with only 3 copies of an elite, or if it's worth adding more elites (mostly an uninspiring group of options - Land Raider is good, but it doesn't benefit from Preemptive Barrage (or Imperial Bunker, which I kind of want as a little alternate economy), and precludes using Ammo Depot.  Thinking about 3x Leman Russ, 3x Valkyries, going a little light on units, 2x Imperial Bunker and 2x Ammo Depot for a total of 5 supports, and a bunch of 2 shield cards.  For some reason, earlier today, I read Honorifca LOOKING for the word Wargear and somehow didn't see it.  Thought it would be great on a Leman Russ until I just checked again and saw Wargear.  In my defense, I was looking on my phone earlier...  maybe my phone has a broken chip that can't display 'W' or something...
 
This is what I've got so far (for the "on the other hand" deck).  Not sure if it will work or not:
 

Army (27)

• 4xAnxious Infantry Platoon
• 3xAssault Valkyrie
• 3xIron Guard Recruits
• 3xLeman Russ Battle Tank
• 3xRogue Trader
• 3xSanctioned Psyker
• 3xShoota Mob Ratling Deadeye
• 3xTallarn Raiders
• 2xVoid Pirate

Attachment (10)

• 3xBodyguard
• 1xCommissarial Bolt Pistol
• 3xDozer Blade
• 3xPromotion

Event (8)

• 3xPreemptive Barrage
• 2xSummary Execution
• 3xThe Emperor's Warrant

Support (5)

• 2xAmmo Depot
• 1xForward Barracks
• 2xImperial Bunker

Also kind of considering 2x Fall Back and/or Made Ta Fight.  (edit: Smash & Bash?)

[FerrusManus]

I build smth like this 

 

Total Cards: (50)

 

Warlord: 

1x Broderick Worr (Decree of Ruin) 

 

 

Army Unit: (27)

4x Anxious Infantry Platoon (Decree of Ruin)

2x Assault Valkyrie (Core Set)

3x Cadian Mortar Squad (Core Set)

2x Captain Markis (Core Set)

3x Iron Guard Recruits (The Scourge)

3x Ratling Deadeye (Core Set)

3x Sanctioned Psyker (Core Set)

1x Seraphim Superior Allegra (The Great Devourer)

3x Tallarn Raiders (Zogwort's Curse)

1x Shrieking Basilisk (Descendants of Isha)

2x Void Pirate (Core Set)

 

Attachment: (7)

1x Commissarial Bolt Pistol (Decree of Ruin)

3x Honorifica Imperialis (Gift of the Ethereals)

3x Promotion (Core Set)

 

Event: (10)

2x Summary Execution (Decree of Ruin)

3x Muster the Guard (The Howl of Blackmane)

3x Preemptive Barrage (Core Set)

2x Suppressive Fire (Core Set)

 

Support: (6)

1x Forward Barracks (Decree of Ruin)

2x Inquisitorial Fortress (The Scourge)

1x Holy Fusillade (The Great Devourer)

2x Catachan Outpost (Core Set)

 

Total Shields: 25
Average Shields Per Event/Attachment: 1.47
Total Command: 41
Average Command Per Unit: 1.52

 

I think muster (and rally point in future) will be great for Worr. And i realy want to try Honorifica Imperialis and spoilered ork axe in this deck. At other hand i think Worr dont need To Arms and SG (defence tactic not aggression) becuase he have only catachan to untap. For example Coteaz have CO, SG, Ships.

Worr cant buff not AM units so usual snake and warbiker is not so neсessary.

 

Ofc it is all about planet flop: if we have few green planets at start (for example even 2nd and 4th planet) better to fortify them with CMS, ratling, tallarans,  sig.squads and etc. Deploy economy units at other planets. Worr himself have great opportunity in sniping.

[Ywingscum]

Does Worr sound like Waaagh if you yell it?