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Subject: Ω-X62113 Deck Thread


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#401
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I brought Omega to my local Regionals this past weekend (small meta, 9 players). It's fairly similar to Grimbo's* a couple pages back but I substituted the Synapse unit for the new one, and 2 Regenerations for 2 Spore Chimneys. Some good the Spore Chimneys did me, because I never drew them... but holy **** the new Synapse unit is insanely good. It gives you access to a few abilies that Tyranids are seriously lacking like routing, but also just great value in triggering planets like Atrox.Ended up with 1 win 2 losses and a bye, didn't place anywhere special of course. But I felt really good because both of my losses were extremely close and 100% my fault from poor early deploy decisions.

 

First game was against Straken. Unfortunately for me all 5 starting planets had a Material icon, so the game was going to finish by planet 5. I like it when the game can go on a little bit longer, gives me more time to set up a warlord kill or at least infest enough planets to abuse my Warlord ability. I seem to recall a really bad deploy on the very first turn where I didn't deploy alongside a Venomthrope which was my only way to infest. It was a bit of an uphill battle after that, I was losing lots of command and only barely winning planets so he didn't just steamroll the first 3. I did manage to bloody Straken, but ended up losing the 5th planet, Preemptive Barrage is a tough thing to deal with as Tyranids. This Straken player ended up in 1st place.

 

Second game was against an Old One Eye player. He was going for the big heavy Elites, and I managed to get all of the cards I really needed to boost myself into a nice command lead. Venomthropes on 3 planets, winning command on them over and over. During a particularly bloody battle on planet 3 or 4 I bloodied Old One Eye in one hit, and then he bloodied me right back (forgot how strong Awakening Cavern is). I ended up winning the game through my Synapse unit parking his butt on the planet that lets me Rout units. Ended up routing a Ymgarl Genestealer with a Venom Cannon attached on the final planet, he would have used Awakening Cavern and hit all of my genestealer weenies for 2... and I had no shields left for the final battle. I felt really good about this win. This player ended up taking 2nd place.

 

Third game was against a Morn player. I don't remember a whole ton about this game, I hadn't seen any of Morns cards in action before and the player just completely wiped the floor with me. I did manage to bloody Morn, but I think I won a single command struggle all game and only infested 1 planet. It was really rough, and I got more tilted than I'd otherwise like to admit. Raiding Portal is really crazy with the +2 resource bonus modifier Kabalite unit! Wow.

 

Then I got a bye.

 

Overall it was a super fun tournament and got me pumped to play Conquest again. I'd love to stick with Tyranids, but overall there's just some things in the current meta I feel like I can't deal with.


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Overall it was a super fun tournament and got me pumped to play Conquest again. I'd love to stick with Tyranids, but overall there's just some things in the current meta I feel like I can't deal with.

 

Sounds like you enjoyed yourself, and that's the main thing :). Regarding the things you felt you couldn't deal with, I'd recommend building a deck that uses them and playing them for yourself. Whilst they may not be your own playstyle, having a few games using them will give you a far deeper insight into how they work, thereby allowing you to figure out how to beat them easier. The example I always give is my partner: she used to hate Zarathur and always lose to him until she made a deck with him and played a few games. She did ok whilst playing Zarathur, with an average win rate, but now she rarely ever loses to Zarathur regardless of what she plays, since she's more expecting of the tricks that can come.


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How does Omega handle enemy elite decks?



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Sobs in the corner? Other than that, about all you can do is throw out a sacrificial lamb at an infested planet for the elite to kill first, then once it has exhausted, drop in with your heavy hitters and try to kill it. But the almost total lack of Nid control options definitely hamstring them in an elite-dominated meta.


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I've started running Consumption in my Omega deck, and it's actually come in to play a few times so far.
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How does Omega handle enemy elite decks?

 

Consumption



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Yeah, consumption is pretty monstrous against both swarms and elites as well as being something that most players are simply not expecting. Whether or not the Omega player can follow it up with something else, however, is another issue


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Consumption is also unplayable vs Eldar.
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Is there an argument for not building a full Genestealer deck? Most decks I see have every Genestealer unit. This dictates a slow and combo-centric play style.


I know your question is old, but this deck seems to run very well for me.

http://www.cardgamed...2ddc950&c=20047

Stalking Lictor is the synapse.
For fun, you can drop the gargoyles and Lictor to max out Warriors and Predations and switch to Maleceptor.

Not ENTIRELY genestealers and works very well for me, although it's at the beginning of its tweaking.
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How does Omega handle enemy elite decks?


Same way he handles everything else. Ymgarl factor and no mercy. Consumption is ok but there are very few Windows to play it.

But yeah, no mercy and ymgarl is the answer for everything at this point until we see a new card worth including.
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Consumption is also unplayable vs Eldar.

 

I wouldn't say its unplayable. If you keep an eye on what's gone in their discard pile and their current hand size it becomes possible to determine whether or not it's likely for them to have a Nullify in hand. If they've got 3 cards in hand then it's potentially unlikely, whereas if they have 10 cards then they probably do have a Nullify. It's like using Klaviex on an Elite; they might have a Backlash but they also might not


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I had the most amazing experience with Omega the other night.

Infestation at its best this time. I was lucky to draw into all my 3 supports in setup.

 

Verstärkung (4)

 

I would probably exchange Broodhives and Clogged with more Infestation Tech, and maybe STC. 



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Yep after some more games to great success, I have changed

-2 Broodhives , -1 Sacaellum Infestors (never saw this one yet , so can't say if its good or not, certainly could have some use with MaleK )

-2 Clogged 

 

+2 No Mercy

+1 Spore Chimney

+1 Digestion Pool

+1 STC-Fragment

 

Also considering to exchange Harpy with Devourer Venomthrope



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Well you finally added No Mercy so it's an official deck now since you included their best loyal card :P

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Yea, honestly I forgot about it the first time.

I made some additional changes just for testing:

 

-2 Biomass Sacrifice

-1 Predation

 

+2 Spore Burst

+1 Sacaellum Infestors

 

 

I have a hard time deciding between Harpy and Devourer. I like them both for different reasons.

 

I might add a 51st card.



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I had some more success with this Deck.

It can be really amazing what it can pull of.

 

"Subject: Ω-X62113"

Army (26)
3x Ripper Swarm (The Great Devourer)
3x Genestealer Harvesters (The Final Gambit)
3x Scything Hormagaunts (The Great Devourer)
3x Toxic Venomthrope (The Great Devourer)
3x Virulent Spore Sacs (The Great Devourer)
3x Genestealer Brood (Wrath of the Crusaders)
4x Invasive Genestealers (What Lurks Below)
1x Devourer Venomthrope (Wrath of the Crusaders)
2x Ymgarl Genestealer (The Great Devourer)
1x Shrieking Harpy (The Great Devourer)

 

Attachment (4)
3x Ymgarl Factor (The Final Gambit)
1x Lethal Toxin Sacs (What Lurks Below)

 

Event (11)
1x Biomass Sacrifice (Deadly Salvage)
2x No Mercy (Core Set)
2x Predation (The Great Devourer)
2x Gene Implantation (What Lurks Below)
2x Spore Burst (The Great Devourer)
2x Sudden Adaptation (Wrath of the Crusaders)

 

Support (10)
2x Digestion Pool (The Great Devourer)
2x Nesting Chamber (The Final Gambit)
1x STC Fragment (Legions of Death)
2x Sacaellum Infestors (Boundless Hate)
2x Spore Chimney (The Great Devourer)
1x Ruined Passages (What Lurks Below)

 

Synapse (1)
1x Keening Maleceptor (Jungles of Nectavus)

I was considering to go a more Elitary route, but decided against it.

Ymgarl is the best threat as it can't be destroyed before it attacks when ambushed.

Only Terror remains a problem. And the occasional Indomitable.

 

Currently considering to also run some Noxious Fleshborer and go a little lower on the support side.

That would shield up, and also bring down the cost curve a little.

 

Sacalleum Infestors are great value when you can infest every turn. Even if they just pay themselves, you got a deploy delay.

 

The new Tyranid Deep Strike coming up will be great. Allows Maleceptor to fetch command and still be at the infestation party.

Also, helps again with the coste curve. I just don't know about the Flesh Hook. It is great against Swormy Decks. Just hard to fit in.

Spore Burst is really nice in that it allows to return Spore Sacs or Venomthropes.

 

Oh right, Sudden Adaption is currently in test if it is better than Dark Cunning.

Idea was to replace Venomthropes with Spore Sacs, or return Hormagaunts back to hand to infest again, preferably replacing them with Harvesters. On top it could replace Harpy to bring Ymgarl, or Ymgarl to bring another attacker.



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New revelations:

 

Sudden Adaptation:

- Not really worth it with Omega. Dark Cunning serves better as a combat trick and enabler.

 

Burst Forth:

- Nice trick, but might not be strong enough with Maleceptor or Omega to make the cut

 

Mucolid Spores:

- I like the Mobility, and I like the flying, just hard to find the space and what to replace

 

 

I dropped Biomass to 1 , used it for shields early. Wished I still had one when there where only 8 cards left in the deck ^^

 

With Biomass in, Spore Burst is also quite useful. Also useful to counter the low unit count. And Shields!

 

With the new Elite Meta, Flying has become more important, and cards like Devourer Venomthrope less so.

Currently considering to run Harpy again. Also adding Brood Chamber for easy keywords.

 

Deck looks like this:

 

"Subject: Ω-X62113"

Army (25)
3x Ripper Swarm (The Great Devourer)
3x Genestealer Harvesters (The Final Gambit)
3x Scything Hormagaunts (The Great Devourer)
3x Toxic Venomthrope (The Great Devourer)
3x Virulent Spore Sacs (The Great Devourer)
3x Genestealer Brood (Wrath of the Crusaders)
4x Invasive Genestealers (What Lurks Below)
2x Ymgarl Genestealer (The Great Devourer)
1x Shrieking Harpy (The Great Devourer)

 

consindering Mucolid Spores somewhere in here

 

Attachment (3)
2x Ymgarl Factor (The Final Gambit)
1x Lethal Toxin Sacs (What Lurks Below)

 

Event (12)
2x Biomass Sacrifice (Deadly Salvage)
2x No Mercy (Core Set)
2x Predation (The Great Devourer)
2x Gene Implantation (What Lurks Below)
2x Dark Cunning (The Great Devourer)
2x Spore Burst (The Great Devourer)

 

considerung Fall Back, since we don't want to lose the synapse early

 

Support (11)
2x Brood Chamber (The Great Devourer)
2x Digestion Pool (The Great Devourer)
2x Nesting Chamber (The Final Gambit)
2x Sacaellum Infestors (Boundless Hate)
2x Spore Chimney (The Great Devourer)
1x Ruined Passages (What Lurks Below)

 

will test Brood Chamber to see if it will stick

 

Synapse (1)
1x Keening Maleceptor (Jungles of Nectavus)

best synapse currently, especially considering the Elite Meta. Just hope Ferrin is in the flop
 

 

Cards in the cut - pool:

 

Mucolid Spores,

Fall Back!,

Shrieking Harpy,

Ymgarl Genestealer,

Burst Forth



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Since I obviously didn't notice your appraisal of Consumption earlier, I gotta admit, it is a very strong card nowadays.

Best thing is , if you can sac your spores before and then drop the bomb.

Only trouble is Eldar with Nullify :-(



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Really wish Omega, and Nids in general, can have more cards that interacts with elites, plus they need more elites.  I'd be happy if we can get second Genestealer elite unit in the next pack and maybe a support like Shroud Cruiser to make them more unpredictable. 



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I don't know how to fit in more Elites than 2-3. The Genestealer theme takes all the space for itself.

Anoher Genestealer Elite would be ok, but not something I think Omega needs.

Omega could make use of Planet manipulation like Chaos and SM (in regard to Maleceptor).