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Defenders of the Faith - Deluxe expansion release


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No love for us printing at home? (Eager to try a OOE infestation/elite with Reinforced Synaptic Network) Thank in advance.


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No love for us printing at home? (Eager to try a OOE infestation/elite with Reinforced Synaptic Network) Thank in advance.

 

:)

It's coming! Hi-res jpg and proxies will be there soon. We have a big task at hand with the French and Polish translation, but it won't be too long.


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Quick newbie question: is there a place where the cards are being discussed individually (like in the cardgamedb cards section) or are people discussing this through facebook and random apoka forum posts?

 

In summary: if I want to ask how a specific card works, where should I go?

 

Thanks

 

Please don't forget my question ; )


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1000 apologies! I just.. missed the message. Shame on me!

 

So,

People are discussing cards on various places. The community is a bit scattered. ^^ Some are asking on facebook, directly commenting the card image related to the question. Some are posting their decks here on that forum, and sometimes questions arise.

But, when it comes to questions about the cards and how it works: You can ask here - on this forum, or on Facebook - on the card's post. At both places you can expect an official answer within a day. ^^



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@Blackwhyn,

If you want to discuss how to win with Baar'Zul with the new cards, you can post your questions on the Baarzul's topic, I'll be happy to contribute. :)

(A hint, it's still tough.)



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Very well, bear with me because I'm not very experienced in the game, so some of these might just require simple clarifications:

 

Saint Celestine   Combat Action: Pay faith equal to the printed cost of a non-Elite unit in your hand to put it into play at this planet. If that unit is still in play at the end of the phase, discard it and draw a card. (Limit once per phase.)
  • Does the cost of her ability have to be paid with faith tokens that are on her or can it be paid with tokens among any of the units you control?

 

Supreme Appearance   Action: Exhaust and sacrifice this support to exhaust each non-warlord unit. Use this ability only if you control no Ranged units.
  • Does this effect apply to all planets and does it apply to both players' units? If so, what is the point of this cards' effect if it exhausts your units as well?

 

Exalted Celestians While this unit has faith and is not a defender, it cannot be dealt damage. Reaction: After this unit exhausts, place 1 on it.
  • Does this mean that while this unit has faith and isn't a defender it can't be damaged by events, making it vulnerable exclusively when it is attacked directly or lacks faith?

 

Sanctified Bolter Attach to an army unit you control. Attached unit gets +1 ATK and +1 HP. Reaction: After a ranged skirmish at this planet begins or an enemy non-warlord unit moves from another planet to this planet, place 2 faith among army units at this planet.
  • Does this card's reaction trigger even if there are no ranged units present at the planet? In other words, does the game consider the occurrence of a ranged skirmish even it there are no ranged units present? 

 

Imperial Blockade As an additional cost, pay 1 [Resource] per copy of this card in your discard pile. Deploy Action: At a target planet, until the end of the round, as an additional cost when a non-warlord card effect moves a unit to that planet, routs a unit or makes a non-Runt unit enter play, pay 1 R. Then draw a card.
  • The card states that you have to pay 1R "as an additional cost when a non-warlord card effect moves a unit to that planet, routs a unit or makes a non-Runt unit enter play". Is this part of the "cost" that the other player has to pay to activate the card effect and, if so, does this mean that by using this event and not paying the cost you can prevent the other player from moving, routing or making a unit enter play?


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@Blackwhyn,

If you want to discuss how to win with Baar'Zul with the new cards, you can post your questions on the Baarzul's topic, I'll be happy to contribute. :)

(A hint, it's still tough.)

 

Austine, I've never played Baar'Zul before, so I don't really have any questions  :P

 

But I'm going to check out the topic to see what you came up with.



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Saint Celestine
Combat Action: Pay faith equal to the printed cost of a non-Elite unit in your hand to put it into play at this planet. If that unit is still in play at the end of the phase, discard it and draw a card. (Limit once per phase.)
Does the cost of her ability have to be paid with faith tokens that are on her or can it be paid with tokens among any of the units you control?
 
It can be paid with tokens among any units you control.
 
Supreme Appearance
Action: Exhaust and sacrifice this support to exhaust each non-warlord unit. Use this ability only if you control no Ranged units.
Does this effect apply to all planets and does it apply to both players' units? If so, what is the point of this cards' effect if it exhausts your units as well?
 
Correct: It applies to all planets and both players units.
There are many situations where this can be useful. I can give you two examples:
- You and your opponent are ready on a planet. He plays http://www.conquestd...ty-wraithknight, so now all his Spirit units are ready and all yours are exhausted. So you would prefer to exhaust everyone, so the combat round is over and every unit readies, means you are back to a normal situation.
- Your opponent is waiting for you at a vital planet. All his units are already at the planet. You commit with your warlord and all his units. So your units are exhausted (moving from HQ) and his are not. Same situation, it is your advantage to exhaust everything.
 
Exalted Celestians
While this unit has faith and is not a defender, it cannot be dealt damage. Reaction: After this unit exhausts, place 1 on it.
Does this mean that while this unit has faith and isn't a defender it can't be damaged by events, making it vulnerable exclusively when it is attacked directly or lacks faith?
 
Correct. (As an example, if this unit is at a planet and has Faith, when a Warpstorm or a Area Effect is activated, this unit isn't damaged.)
 
Sanctified Bolter
Attach to an army unit you control. Attached unit gets +1 ATK and +1 HP. Reaction: After a ranged skirmish at this planet begins or an enemy non-warlord unit moves from another planet to this planet, place 2 faith among army units at this planet.
Does this card's reaction trigger even if there are no ranged units present at the planet? In other words, does the game consider the occurrence of a ranged skirmish even it there are no ranged units present? 
 
Yes. There is always a Ranged Skirmish at the beginning of a battle. Even if no unit can participate to it. Think about Preemptive Barrage of the Astra. You play this Combat Action at the beginning of the battle, while in the "Ranged Skirmish" to gain some Ranged units.
 
Imperial Blockade
As an additional cost, pay 1 [Resource] per copy of this card in your discard pile. Deploy Action: At a target planet, until the end of the round, as an additional cost when a non-warlord card effect moves a unit to that planet, routs a unit or makes a non-Runt unit enter play, pay 1 R. Then draw a card.
The card states that you have to pay 1R "as an additional cost when a non-warlord card effect moves a unit to that planet, routs a unit or makes a non-Runt unit enter play". Is this part of the "cost" that the other player has to pay to activate the card effect and, if so, does this mean that by using this event and not paying the cost you can prevent the other player from moving, routing or making a unit enter play?
 
We reworked the wording. The Imperial Blockade effect is : The cost for those actions is increased by 1. The player who wants to activates such an effect must pay 1 more R. The other player can't prevent anything. It is just an extra-cost.
A simple example:
- You want to play Archon's Terror. The cost of the event is 2 and you need to pay 1 more R because it is an effect of the list (rout a unit). So you pay 3R to play your Archon's Terror.

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just to clarify

 

is there proper version of cards on:

1) OCTGN (image packs)

2) www.conquestdb.com



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1/ OCTGN

Yes. Intolerance updated the data recently. (it is automatic at app launch)

We updated the image pack. (you need to upload it again) http://apoka.mozello.com/cards/octgn/

 

2/ Conquestdb

Not yet. The updated datas and images are "en route", it should be updated soon.

 

3/ Faceook

Usually the album of the pack is up to date. Let us know if you spot a mistake as well. ^^

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Thank you very much for the clarifications!


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No love for us printing at home? (Eager to try a OOE infestation/elite with Reinforced Synaptic Network) Thank in advance.

 

Here you are.

Defenders of the Faith is now available for those willing to print it themselves instead of using MPC shop space.

 

High-res jpeg (click the box itself):

http://apoka.mozello.com/

 

Proxy:

http://apoka.mozello.com/cards/proxy/


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FYI: The high-res jpeg file had an extra copy of Sanctified Bolter (an older version labelled 025). It's fixed now, we removed it from the file. If you downloaded it already and wonders: Just delete it, it's a mistake. ^^



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So I haven't tried the new Sisters of Battle cards yet. I plan on ordering them when the next pack comes out.

 

So how do they play? What makes them cool and different?


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We play them at my store, and I got an opportunity to play Saint Celestine during the last online league.
 
I'd say,
First there is enough cards in the deluxe to play full Ecclesiarchy. I know it's not important for competitive play, but for me the narrative is a big part of my fun. I'm happy to deckbuild Baarzul and play bold during the game, to feel like I lead a Khornate warband. Just because it's fun. So being able to play full Ecclesiarchy is exciting.
Then, they play very differently from Astra, they are stronger, a bit on the side of the midrange. But one thing that stands out is the synergy between the units. You need to keep them alive until you have enough to trigger the synergies. And this is where Faith comes handy. So you really feel like you are holding the line until you mustered enough strength to smash your opponent with righteous wrath.
And last, again it may be only appealing to me, but the cards are picturing the Sisters of Battle so well. "Our Last Stand", "Miraculous Intervention", "Fanatical Sister Repentia", etc, when you play those cards, you really feel like a SoB with an unshakable faith.
 
(And there is Raging Juggernaut for Baarzul. Did I mention I like Baarzul already?)
 
Edit: Just noticed I said nothing about the "competitive aspect" of the cards. But really I'm a casual player. Some experts here can answer on that part better than I can. ^^

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Here comes a new year under the watchful eye of the God-Emperor!
 
And to start the year with some sweet stuff, here is, the long-overdue review of the Sisters of Battle deluxe expansion. It took a long time because we were super busy with the new planets, because reviewers needed time to get used to the new Faith system and because we had to recruit new reviewers, active members of the community.
So here it is, Therion who decided to also be a World Champion at L5R is still there (don't follow his steps kids! It's the dark side AND they don't have cookies, tea at best) and we welcome two new reviewers, Piotrek007r and Austine.
 
Here is the review:

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