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1) Is there a moment in time at which a 1 STR character is in play but not affected by Blood of the Dragon yet?

2) Is there a moment in time at which Shadow Tower Mason is in play but does not have an intrigue icon yet?
(keeping in mind a possible interrupt to "when a character gains a challenge icon")

3) Is there a moment in time at which a character raised by The White Shadows is in play but not blank yet?

(previously you ruled that Craster enters play already affected by the pre-existing lasting effect, and thus his immunity does not protect him. I am not sure if the timing of "turning on" of his own constant ability (immunity) and the plot's lasting effect (blanking) is different, or if they're still simultanous but the "pre-existing" status of the lasting effect is what's important here to bypass the immunity)

4) Is there a difference whether an ability / challenge icon / STR modifier is gained through a character's own constant ability, or a contstant ability / lasting effect of another card?

5) Does Whisper Campaign check whether a character had an intrigue icon the moment it entered play (thus making "a moment in time" relevant), or whether a character has an intrigue icon during the Forced Reaction window in which Whisper Campaign triggers? (similar to the "attacking alone" rule in the FAQ)

6) Do reactions in general check whether their triggering condition is true during the Reaction window, or do they trigger off specific game events that occur during the game? i.e. is "attacking alone" an exception of how reactions work, or the general rule?

7) Do reactions to a card entering play trigger even if that card is no longer in play by the time an ability is triggered?
(e.g. a 1 STR character enters play during the challenges phase and is immediately killed by Blood of the Dragon, can Oldtown Informer trigger?)

You see, i'm trying to understand how Reactions work in general. Some of them seem to "check the game log" for their triggerign condition, while others check the current game state.

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Best Answer

In general, constant abilities act on cards as soon as they enter play, and there is not a point in time where the card is in play but does not have the constant ability acting on it yet.

1. No, the character is immediately affected by Blood of the Dragon (so it will enter play and be killed immediately).

2. No, assuming you have the requisite locations/attachment, Shadow Tower Mason will enter play with the icons from its constant ability.

3. No, a character returned by The White Shadows enters play blank.

4. No, all constant abilities become active on a card as soon as it enters play, regardless of the source of those constant abilities.

5. Whisper Campaign checks whether the character had an intrigue icon at the time it entered play. If a character has an intrigue icon when it enters play, the triggering condition on Whisper Campaign has not occurred.

6. In general, a triggering condition occurs, and then reactions to that triggering condition can be used. Those reactions may create new triggering conditions, but do not change the original triggering condition. The “attacking alone” ruling from Lady Sansa’s Rose works a bit differently than normal based on the specific wording of that event.

7. Yes. Obviously any reactions on that card itself will not occur if the card is no longer in play, but the triggering condition of that card entering play has still occurred, and reactions on other cards can be used based on that triggering condition.

Thanks!
Danny Schaefer

[mplain]

Nothing groundbreaking here, just confirmation of how things work. We assumed as much.