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[Ruling] Rhaegal (MoD)

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Best Answer mplain , 20 September 2018 - 08:13 PM

A question about new Rhaegal from Music of Dragons.

At first glance it's all clear: characters can be killed either by framework effects (military claim), or by card effects (those that say "kill a character"). However, it gets blurry if we look at claim replacement effects and certain other cards:

1) Some cards instruct a player to apply / satisfy military claim (Vengeance for Elia, Trial by Combat, Now It Comes To War, Maester Aemon (WotW), The Free Folk). Do these kills trigger Rhaegal?

2) Some cards replace normal claim with a kill effect (Mirri Maz Duur, The Seastone Chair). Do these kills trigger Rhaegal?

Note that we're currently operating under the premise that Rakharo triggers off characters killed by Mirri and Seastone Chair, because modified claim is still claim. Can a kill be caused by both claim and card effect? Or is it one or the other?


None of these will trigger Rhaegal. A character killed for claim is not considered to have been killed by a card effect.

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A question about new Rhaegal from Music of Dragons:
 

Rhaegal

Reaction: After an opponent's character is killed by a card effect, stand Rhaegal.


At first glance it's all clear: characters can be killed either by framework effects (military claim), or by card effects (those that say "kill a character"). However, it gets blurry if we look at claim replacement effects and certain other cards:

1) Some cards instruct a player to apply / satisfy military claim (Vengeance for Elia, Trial by Combat, Now It Comes To War, Maester Aemon (WotW), The Free Folk). Do these kills trigger Rhaegal?

2) Some cards replace normal claim with a kill effect (Mirri Maz Duur, The Seastone Chair). Do these kills trigger Rhaegal?

Note that we're currently operating under the premise that Rakharo triggers off characters killed by Mirri and Seastone Chair, because modified claim is still claim. Can a kill be caused by both claim and card effect? Or is it one or the other?



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A question about new Rhaegal from Music of Dragons.

At first glance it's all clear: characters can be killed either by framework effects (military claim), or by card effects (those that say "kill a character"). However, it gets blurry if we look at claim replacement effects and certain other cards:

1) Some cards instruct a player to apply / satisfy military claim (Vengeance for Elia, Trial by Combat, Now It Comes To War, Maester Aemon (WotW), The Free Folk). Do these kills trigger Rhaegal?

2) Some cards replace normal claim with a kill effect (Mirri Maz Duur, The Seastone Chair). Do these kills trigger Rhaegal?

Note that we're currently operating under the premise that Rakharo triggers off characters killed by Mirri and Seastone Chair, because modified claim is still claim. Can a kill be caused by both claim and card effect? Or is it one or the other?


None of these will trigger Rhaegal. A character killed for claim is not considered to have been killed by a card effect.

[Danny Schaefer, 20.08.2018]