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Lannister City of Shadows
Submitted
Mach
, Jan 16 2014 09:47 PM | Last updated Jan 17 2014 06:24 AM
Lannister
Submitted by: | Mach |
Submitted: | Jan 16 2014 09:47 PM |
Views: | 2975 |
Last updated: | Jan 17 2014 06:24 AM |
Category: | Lannister |
Deck Name: | Lannister City of Shadows |
Deck Contents: | Total Cards (57) House (1) House Lannister (Core) x1 Agenda (1) City of Shadows (CoS) x1 Plot (7) A City Besieged (CD) x1 City of Lies (CoS) x1 City of Sin (AToT) x1 City of Soldiers (TBoBB) x1 City of Spiders (TftRK) x1 On My Oath (TK) x1 Valar Morghulis (Core) x1 Character (27) Ser Gregor's Dog (FF) x3 Doubting Septa (LotR) x2 Lannisport Weaponsmith (Core) x2 Lannisport Moneylender (LotR) x3 Tommen Baratheon (SA) x1 Ser Arys Oakheart (PotS) x1 Cersei Lannister (AToT) x1 Syrio Forel (TftRK) x1 The Hound (TK) x1 Silent Sisters (KotS) x3 Ser Preston Greenfield (TK) x2 Arya Stark (CoS) x1 Arianne Martell (TK) x1 The Queen of Thorns (TftRK) x2 Shadow Killer (TK) x1 Ser Jaime Lannister (TK) x1 Tyrion Lannister (CoS) x1 Location (19) Twilight Market (AToT) x2 The Goldroad (LotR) x3 Kingdom of Shadows (KotS) x3 Pentoshi Manor (AHM) x3 The Iron Throne (LotR) x1 Golden Tooth Mines (Core) x2 Lannisport Brothel (Core) x1 Tunnels of the Red Keep (CoS) x2 Alchemist's Guild Hall (TBoBB) x2 Attachment (6) Venomous Blade (TBoBB) x3 Increased Levy (LotR) x3 Event (5) Condemned by the Council (AToT) x1 The Hand's Judgement (TTotH) x1 Infamous! (LotR) x1 Harry the Riverlands (FF) x2 Something... |
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Other Information | Income on Plot Cards: 4, 3, 3, 3, 1, 3, 2 Average Plot Income: 2.714 Number of deck cards providing income: 11 Average deck cards income: 1.000 Number of cards providing influence: 0 |
11 Comments
Depending on you style of play, what about Volantis Inn? Keep Ser Preston out until the standing phase, kneel him to kneel one of their characters, and then chuck him back into the shadows, so you didn't really lose out on anything. Effectively means having a second Lannisport Brothel, which is never a bad thing.
Neeever mind, I missed your agenda
House (1)
House Lannister (Core) x1
Agenda (1)
City of Shadows (CoS) x1
Character (30)
Cersei Lannister (AToT) x1
Ser Jaime Lannister (TK) x1
Tywin Lannister (TTotH) x1
Tyrion Lannister (CoS) x1
Doubting Septa (LotR) x2
Mountain Refugee (RoW) x3
Lannisport Moneylender (LotR) x3
Lannisport Weaponsmith (Core) x2
Ser Preston Greenfield (TK) x1
Arianne Martell (TK) x1
Arya Stark (CoS) x1
Syrio Forel (TftRK) x1
The Queen of Thorns (TftRK) x1
Maester Cressen (AHA) x1
Arbor Guardsman (TCC) x2
The Hound (TK) x1
Tommen Baratheon (SA) x1
Silent Sisters (KotS) x3
Ser Lancel Lannister (TPoL) x1
Varys (SaS) x1
Ser Arys Oakheart (PotS) x1
Location (23)
Kingdom of Shadows (KotS) x3
Lannisport Brothel (Core) x1
Moat Cailin (TK) x1
Alchemist's Guild Hall (TBoBB) x1
The Black Cells (TftRK) x1
Golden Tooth Mines (Core) x2
The Goldroad (LotR) x3
The Iron Throne (LotR) x1
Tunnels of the Red Keep (CoS) x1
Shadowblack Lane (Core) x1
Street of Sisters (Core) x1
Street of Steel (Core) x1
King's Landing (SaS) x1
Pentoshi Manor (AHM) x3
Twilight Market (AToT) x2
Event (4)
Condemned by the Council (AToT) x2
Harry the Riverlands (FF) x2
Attachment (3)
Increased Levy (LotR) x3
Plot (7)
City of Lies (CoS) x1
City of Sin (AToT) x1
City of Soldiers (TBoBB) x1
City of Spiders (TftRK) x1
On My Oath (TK) x1
Wildfire Assault (Core) x1
Cersei's Scheme (TPoL) x1
Got pretty thoroughly beaten with it three times out of 5 yesterday though.
Swapping out the Refugees for Gregor's Dog, freeing up restricted slot for more draw with Pyromancer's Cache. As well as Arys, who was pretty much useless throughout the day for Jalabar Xho, to counter any nasty Noble Causes. Also thinking about putting a Lashing Out back in there.
Will try running Volantis Inn in a few test games as well.
If you did go for Cache, do you not worry about having wasted draw? That, Jaime, Golden Tooth Mines, King's Landing and Tommen, just seems excessive. Though I assume there were times it didn't all come together, hence wanting more draw?
Have you thought about Lion's Gate? Helps activate Arys, and you can get the power on them with things like Pentoshi, or them having renown. It also helps shut down characters who rely on being the only King, such as Stannis.
What were the problems you faced? Was it more their deck or your deck?
One was a turn one loss to A Noble Cause, despite (possibly because of) my 7 card setup, I had three cards in shadows and he dropped a Shadow Enchantress and Power of Faith, didn't stand a chance. Also lost against a Stark Siege deck and Dothraki deck. Made me consider dropping in King Joff's Guard, for a bit more raw power but would probably want to run a version of Joffrey in there was well for another King character.
If I put the Cache in I'd probably drop KL to avoid overkilling it with draw.
Lion's Gate is another thing I'm considering but don't have that CP yet.
When the deck works, it works really well. There's some great combos in there, popping Cressen to get back your key locations back, popping Arianne for City of Spiders, more kneel and two claim and the closer is Preston + Queen of Thorns (and Tywin for added fun) grabbing power.
An extreme move I'm also thinking about is moving away from City plots and running
Men of Honor
Forgotten Plans
Art of Seduction
Shadows and Spiders
Cersei's Scheme
All the Gold in Casterly Rock
Valar Morghulis
Instead of a King Joffrey, what about Margaery? Bring out a shadows card, give Tyrion deadly, then have the pair of them attack on intrigue, she drags in a frustrating character (such as the Shadow Enchantress), then watch them die to deadly.
Would more kneel help you? Not kneeling to attack does nothing for them when you kneel all of their characters.
I'd also like to round out the gold weenies with one less money lender and 2x the power icon one, but again not got the CP.
I think there's enough kneel in there, it just doesn't all hit first turn. Think I might swap Wildfire for Valar, even with plot cycling I reckon I can recover from it faster. Playing it early in any of the three games on Sunday would probably have turned the tide in my favour a little.
One thing I've enjoyed and found affected in my limited metagame is use and abuse the Lannister rookery, as a mid-challenge phase Valar Morghulis often leaves me in a good position to bring multiple cards out of shadows in the following phases, and be in a stronger position next turn. Failing that, a mid-challenge phase City card can be pretty damn good too.
I'll try to post my deck later.
The way I've found it works is that because of putting stuff into shadows I'll often be in a weaker position on the board in some challenge phases, but I'll typically have an Intrigue weenie out, such as Doubting Septa. I then make a Challenge with them, and if it connects, thats one card discarded, and if it doesn't, I trigger the Rookery. Also, of course, the opponent can't make an Intrigue challenge at me without risking the rookery triggering. All in all, it turns every Intrigue challenge into a tough choice for the opponent - give me the win on it, or give me a free on-reveal plot card effect.
Its not overwhelmingly powerful because that choice is in the control of my opponent, but then its only a 1 cost non-unique non-limited location, so I don't expect too much from it.
I use it in the Shadows deck rather than my other Lannister decks simply because Valar Morghulis really needs to be played mid turn for a Shadows deck, as a 2 gold 0 claim turn is just too weak. Also, of course, all the cities are on-reveal effects.