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Stark - Siege with epic phases + non kneelers and armies v4

Stark
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Submitted by: Henrik
Submitted: Mar 10 2013 12:17 PM
Views: 4797
Last updated: May 18 2013 03:43 AM
Category: Stark
Deck Name: Stark - Siege with epic phases + non kneelers and armies v4
Deck Contents: Total Cards (60)

House (1)
House Stark (Core) x1

Agenda (1)
The Siege of Winterfell (LoW) x1

Plot (7)
At the Gates (GotC) x1
Fear of Winter (BtW) x1
Respect of the Old Gods (LoW) x1
Storm of Swords (LoW) x1
Summoning Season (Core) x1
Take Them by Surprise (LoW) x1
Twist of Fate (APS) x1

Character (36)
Brienne of Tarth (PotS) x1
Catelyn Stark (LoW) x1
Eddard Stark (TTotH) x1
Fleet from Wolf's Den (RotK) x2
Follower of the Many-Faced God (CD) x3
Hodor (Core) x1
House Tully Septon (LoW) x1
Hungry Mob (CoS) x3
Jeyne Westerling (ASoS) x1
Maester Luwin (FtC) x2
Maester Vyman (TWoW) x1
Meera Reed (TftH) x1
Northern Cavalry Flank (SA) x3
Rickon Stark (MotA) x3
Riders of the Red Fork (FtC) x1
Robb Stark (KotS) x3
Ser Jorah Mormont (PotS) x1
Syrio Forel (TftRK) x1
The Bastard's Boys (ARotD) x2
The Blackfish (LoW) x1
Vanguard Scouts (TWot5K) x3

Location (12)
Gates of Winterfell (CtB) x1
Godswood (Core) x3
Harrenhal (ODG) x1
Lord Eddard's Chambers (Core) x1
Northern Fiefdoms (Core) x3
Street of Sisters (Core) x1
Street of Steel (Core) x1
White Harbor Dromon (TGF) x1

Attachment (0)

Event (12)
Battle for the Shield Islands (TGF) x1
Battle of the Bay (TBoBB) x3
Fear Cuts Deeper than Swords (LoW) x1
Rhymes with Meek (ARotD) x2
The Battle of the Whispering Wood (EB) x3
Die by the Sword (LoW) x1
No Quarter (TBC) x1

General tactic is to get Robb and armies out ASAP. Go for the win in plot 3 or 4 with take them by suprise + 2 or 3 epic phases. Would love some feedback on this deck.

I like the many options this deck got with the first plot card.

1: If Rickon is played in setup at the gates to bring in maester luwin + maester vyman is a great start.

2: Another good start, if rickon is in play, is summoning season to get robb + an army of your choice.

3: If you get more characters out then your opponents on setup, Go for fear of winter and keep your character advantage.

4: If you setup lots of cost reducers, blockade would be a wise choice to ruin marshalling phase for your opponents.

Combos:

1: Kneel Robb to get a free army in, then play follower of many-faced god to stand him up and play another free army!

2: The bastards boys + Fleet from wolf's den. Raise your claim when you kneel TBB, then stand it and remove it from the challange with FFWD! This will result in a 2-claimer in military challanges and a 3 claimer in the upcoming power challanges.

3: Epic phases with vanguard scouts + Northern cavalry flank + syrio forel = fun times\n
Graphs:
Sample Hand Reload
Other Information Income on Plot Cards: 3, 2, 2, 2, 4, 5, 5
Average Plot Income: 3.286
Number of deck cards providing income: 1
Average deck cards income: 1.000
Number of cards providing influence: 4


22 Comments

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ShadowcatX2000
Mar 10 2013 06:56 PM
I'd advise working in, I believe it is Rickard Karstark, the one who doesn't kneel for military challenges. He's worth his weight in gold in this deck, even though he's not an army. Ditto King Robb's Host (though they are, in fact, an army).
    • Henrik likes this
Thanks for the feedback. I actaully used King Robb's Host (TWot5K) in this deck previously and liked it alot. Once its out its a monster! But i wanted some more "safe" ways to get good characters for military challanges into play. Robb Stark (KotS) might get killed/discarded or get his character ability canceled. I ended up replacing 2 king robb's host with Shaggydog (Core) and Syrio Forel (TftRK). Syrio since he is able to come out of shadows at the beginning of each epic phase, and shaggydog since i almost all the time got at least one lord on the board. Might replace one of the current armies with king robb's host though. Rickard Karstark (WLL) though i find a bit pricey for what he is offering. If running an agenda he is inferior to Northern Cavalry Flank (SA) in all regards and i just dont think he is worth the gold.
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HidaHayabusa
Mar 10 2013 10:09 PM
I would suggest that you give a shot to the Riders of the Red fork, for those explosive Rickon starts. Probably I wouldn't run 1x Meera as my restricted card, you can't make full use of her (no Maege or shadow Arya), and I think that No Quarter would be much better in here.

If you settle down to what Epic battles you need, you can invest on 3 No Quarter/2-3 Die by the sword and also I can't see a reason why Manning the City walls isn't in the plot lineup.
    • scantrell24 and Henrik like this
Ah, forgot to mention its a melee deck so Meera isn's my restricted card, Fear Of Winter is. Not sure if i want 3 of the meera even though her ability is the best way to counter opponents big bad characters like Melisandre (RotO), Euron Crow's Eye (ASoSilence) or mess up measters path decks. I will however add one Riders Of The Red Fork. Its great if im ever in a need of a character with military icon while playing my At The Gates. Hmm, guess shaggydog has to be chained to give space for the Riders ;) Thx again for the feedback. Much appreciated
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HidaHayabusa
Mar 11 2013 07:30 AM
I don't think so, I just know that if you update and re-submit it the new version will replace the old. The comments will go, but I would suggest that you go ahead and do it, so as to have the new list for feedback and ideas ;)

Edit: Probably the reason why you didn't go with Manning the City Walls is because it needs to be the only City plot in the used pile. Exactly the same as At the gates. Between the two, Stark lineups work better with At the Gates. So...probably check again if you want to add it.
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Updated the deck. Thanks for the help. Replaced Grey Wind (LoW) and one
Fear Cuts Deeper than Swords (LoW) with 1 No Quarter (TBC) and 1 Die by the Sword (LoW). Figured i got enough cancel with Eddard/Maester vyman and one fear cuts deeper than swords. Small changes but i like the deck alot more now :)
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Raithwalker
Mar 13 2013 03:01 AM
Just out of curiosity, wouldn't a 3 claim power challenge be incredibly useless with the Siege of Winterfell agenda? Is the power discarded instead of claimed for your house or something? I think I'm missing the point of using the bastard's boys twice.

Just out of curiosity, wouldn't a 3 claim power challenge be incredibly useless with the Siege of Winterfell agenda? Is the power discarded instead of claimed for your house or something? I think I'm missing the point of using the bastard's boys twice.


Moving power for claim from your opponet's house to yours in a power challenge is allowed with Siege of Winterfell.
Even though its a payment for the plot's claim, you are not CLAIMING power, you are moving power.
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Raithwalker
Mar 13 2013 07:59 PM
Oh man. My world just got flipped upside down. No wonder I've been losing with that agenda so much with my friends. Thanks for that. Time to rethink some deck strategies.
    • Henrik likes this
Hehe... Yeah, the only powers you are not allowed to claim is unopposed, opposed, dominance, power from events or power from plots. Hmm, well, you can get unopposed and opposed power if its done in a military challange.
A list of cards that juuust didn't make the cut:

Brienne of Tarth (PotS)
Shaggydog (Core)
Frozen Outpost (LoW)
(In order of what i prefer most in the deck)
Make room for Brienne. She really is that good.
Brienne really does need to be in there
Hmm, yeah... i really want her in the deck. Her + White Harbor Dromon (TGF) sounds like a mean combo. She can then jump in if needed in a red challange. Ofc, white harbor + Northern Cavalry Flank (SA) should be better overall. Don't know what card to replace though. Leans towards 1 The Bastard's Boys (ARotD) or House Tully Septon (LoW). Probably the army
manning the city walls and at the gates cant be in the same deck. that is one tough choice.
no high ground o.O

what about lucas/umber berserker?
your average income from plot card 2.571, which is a little bit low. Your deck is very offensive, but I don't know why you choose blockade as your plot card. It doesn't give you any advantage. fewer characters and more locations, which will speed up your deck.
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Very true, income was a bit low. Replaced blockade with another 2 claimer with high income Twist of Fate (APS).Thanks for all the feedback on this deck. I enjoyed playing it alot but now im trying out a stark long voyage. A searchy toolbox deck with focus on bran/rickon/ and the stark childrens wolves. Will post that once im happy with it :)
Henrik,how does this deck works after the new R.list?
Hvae you try it?
Hmm, the deck is designed with regards of the restricted list from FAQ 4.0. Is there a newer one after that? Bear in mind that it's a melee deck and not joust.
I think this is too expensive to be great deck. And u shut have more stand. Frozen outpost is great, and some stand events too. Its better to stand u own charcters than kill enemy charcters in melee. Distinc mastery would be good. Its also great for robb to bring in free armies.
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