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Marched to the Wall
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Is there any plot which can counter this now?
Nope. Currently, there is no way to cancel or blank this plot card.
If you are a Stark player, for most purposes, Winterfell Heart Tree can protect you from Marched to the Wall.
It does and it doesn't. All it does is make a single character an ineligible target. Unless you just have the one character in play, it doesn't stop you from having to discard some other character when the plot is revealed. And since you get to choose which character would be discarded, anyway, that's kind of an empty protection. So the Heart Tree really only "protects" from Marched if you have exactly one character in play (and it's a Stark). And that's assuming your opponent flips Marched anyway, after watching you use the Heart Tree.
As I said... if you are a Stark player, for most purposes, Winterfell Heart Tree can protect you from Marched to the Wall. Are you asserting that most characters in a Stark deck are not Stark? Or that Marched to the Wall is not primarily used against a player with only 1 character in play? Preventative protection is still protection.
Not to imply that Winterfell Heart Tree is a good card... but it is equipped to handle Marched to the Wall. If you are playing Stark. For the majority of situations that Marched would be used against you.
There's a difference between "most purposes" and "the majority of situations." The Heart Tree (which isn't loyal, so is not locked into Stark decks) protects against Marched for a single purpose - having exactly 1 character in play at the beginning of the Plot phase.
And in my experience, outside of an opponent who sets up just 1 character, this is not even the majority of situations in which Marched ends up being revealed. Although granted, it is the best situation in which to reveal it.
Ultimately, though, even if we disagree on the semantics, we seem to agree that while the Heart Tree helps in that 1 specific situation, it is not worth banking the Heart Tree against that situation.
Well yes, I'd say that the primary use of Marched these days is to follow the First Snow and remove one of several of your opponent's high cost characters. Winterfell Heart Tree wouldn't do anything for you in this case.
I don't know why people still seem all to have this in their plot decks, just in case someone is stupid enough to play a high cost char alone in setup...
Yeah, people who mulligan into a hand of only 5+ cost characters are stupid. Cannot even build their decks properly, ugh!
Simply because you can win a game when it hits on first round
EDIT: and after Valar it can also turn the tide
And good in Varys decks. And aggro decks. And decks that want to win initiative.
Also during Valar, its a great answer if they have a save on the board and you don't, or you can be first player and trigger it first to discard a key character rather than kill them.