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Tower of the Hand



  • Type: Location
  • Faction: Lannister
  • Cost: 3
  • King’s Landing.
  • Reaction: After you win an [Intrigue] challenge, kneel Tower of the Hand and return a participating [Lannister] character to your hand to choose a character with lower printed cost controlled by the losing opponent. Return that character to its owner’s hand.
  • Quantity: 1
  • Number: 30
  • Illustrator: Ryan Barger
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15 Comments

If either character has a duplicate, can you discard the duplicate instead of returning the character to your hand?

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LoneElfRanger
Apr 17 2016 03:57 AM

If your character remains in play (because of the save), then you did not fulfill the requirements of The Hand's Tower and nothing happens to your opponent's character.

    • nigelg23 likes this
Note that if your opponent has a dupe on their character they can use it to save them. Dupes work against any effect that removes a character from play, regardless of whether they are killed, discarded, returned to hand, or removed from the game (which surely will be a thing when Coldhands returns).
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HouseofPayne
Apr 18 2016 12:09 AM

This is going to work so well with the new Trial by Combat.  Bounce their claim soak to force them to kill something more valuable

Bounce a dupe and then tears of lys the remaining card.

 

So many possibilities with this card. :D

    • JoVo24 likes this

It's a little sad that Cersi doesn't continue to raise claim once she's left the board, but what a great card!

Too bad that Selyse only works for Barath' !

Can you bounce a character even if your opponent doesn't have a character cheap enough to target?

No. You cannot trigger an effect if it would have no effect on the game state. Costs (which in this case is returning the Lannister character to your hand) do not count towards changing the game state. Since you cannot change the game state you can't trigger Tower of the Hand.

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john39greece
May 17 2017 06:15 PM

The Lannister character must be yours or it coulb be any Lannister character of any player???

From Rules Reference, page 5:
Costs
A card’s gold cost is the numerical value that must be paid to marshal or play the card.
Some card abilities are presented in a “
do X to do Y” construct. In such a construct, the “do X” aspect
(preceding the word “to”) is a cost, and the “do Y” aspect (following the word “to”) is an effect.
- opponent’s game elements may not be used to pay a cost

Can I pay costs with a card I own but do not control? Or with a card I control but do not own?

I had asked this question to Fantasy Flight Games and their response was that control, not ownership, is what matters for in-play cards. So you can pay a cost with a card that you control but don't own, but not with a card that you own but don't control.

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FedericoFasullo
May 22 2017 09:09 AM

But in this particular case, let's say I have warded a Red Cloak, I assume I cannot use the tower with the re cloak because that card cannot be returned to MY hand so the cost cannot be paid. Am I wrong?

You can. This interaction is governed by a special rule:

 

- If a card would enter an out of play area of a player who does not own the card, the card is placed in its owner's equivalent out of play area instead. (For all associated card ability and framework effect purposes, the card is considered to have entered that opponent's out of play area, and only the physical placement of the card is adjusted.)