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Neutral Maesters




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Since maesters require you to win many challenges, I prefer to switch Forging the Chain or possibly A Deadly Game to something more aggressive like Game of thrones. Also you have too many cards in your deck. Try to cut some events, like The Archmaester's Wrath. Using your maesters to win challenges is much more important than having them knelt to control the board.  Try to keep your deck as close as to 60. 

 

Since your characters looks more rush style, you can also try art of seduce. The first four rounds: at the gate, the art of seduce, game of thrones/the scheme of schlors, outwit can give you an idea about a rush maester deck.

 

Try rusted sword. It is a good card in maester deck,

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chilligreen
Jun 08 2015 11:49 PM

It's running 69 cards due to the Maester's Path. Starting with 9 chains on the agenda and a 60 card deck still to run.

Not sure you understood agenda, you can have 60 card deck total, with chain attachments. Unless I misunderstood something... :)
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chilligreen
Jun 09 2015 10:10 AM

I may not have worded my previous comment very well, but I'm reading the agenda correctly. The game rules are that a house deck should be a minimum of 60, but there's not maximum. So this deck is officially 69 cards but I'd always start with the 9 chains on TMP.

 

I've seen previous builds that are 60-66 cards and then use the agenda to streamline the deck for setup to something like 50-54 cards, I just prefer having the full 60 in addition the the agenda.

I may not have worded my previous comment very well, but I'm reading the agenda correctly. The game rules are that a house deck should be a minimum of 60, but there's not maximum. So this deck is officially 69 cards but I'd always start with the 9 chains on TMP.

 

I've seen previous builds that are 60-66 cards and then use the agenda to streamline the deck for setup to something like 50-54 cards, I just prefer having the full 60 in addition the the agenda.

Yes, the deck has no maximum. However if you put more cards in your deck your deck strength will be reduced. One of the big advantage of TMP is deck thinning, that others start with a 60 cards deck while TMP start with 48-54 cards deck. Yes, you can use 69 cards. But your deck cannot beat the similar deck who just cuts some to 60 cards. 

 

I am not saying that only 60 can win. Sometimes 61-63 is also ok. However, your deck can definitely remove some cards. You have too many cards require you to kneel your maesters. 

 

One more thing, please add someTraitorous Crows (maybe 2-3. I would rather use these unplayable guys to those events which kneel your own maesters). Otherwise you will be tortured by Ygritte to death. 

 

 

Edit: Why do you use Follower of the many-faced god while you almost don't have any other Starks and stalwart? If you want some weenies vale refugees are much better. You also need some birds to help you to deal with seasons and to perform the unerrata  broken combo with copper link. Not to mention that your military is too weak. You can be weak in some parts, but you almost don't have it.

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chilligreen
Jun 10 2015 09:43 AM

Yes, the deck has no maximum. However if you put more cards in your deck your deck strength will be reduced. One of the big advantage of TMP is deck thinning, that others start with a 60 cards deck while TMP start with 48-54 cards deck. Yes, you can use 69 cards. But your deck cannot beat the similar deck who just cuts some to 60 cards. 

 

I am not saying that only 60 can win. Sometimes 61-63 is also ok. However, your deck can definitely remove some cards. You have too many cards require you to kneel your maesters. 

 

One more thing, please add someTraitorous Crows (maybe 2-3. I would rather use these unplayable guys to those events which kneel your own maesters). Otherwise you will be tortured by Ygritte to death. 

 

 

Edit: Why do you use Follower of the many-faced god while you almost don't have any other Starks and stalwart? If you want some weenies vale refugees are much better. You also need some birds to help you to deal with seasons and to perform the unerrata  broken combo with copper link. Not to mention that your military is too weak. You can be weak in some parts, but you almost don't have it.

 

Thanks, good to get some constructive thoughts. Thankfully my meta doesn't really have any Ygritte to worry about.

 

I played a game last night and the Follower of the MFG came in surprisingly handy just as a repeat military claim, then with the Iron Link on another maester use him as a fairly handy stealth military attacker with a repeatedly bronzed-linked Apprentice Chain attached. But you're right, the events and balance still need looking at, especially with the number of kneel-a-Maester costs.

 

I'm thinking Copper Link + Dissension might make its way in as a combo.

You don't need follower. It stands only Stark Cards. You have only one Stark character, and your chains will probably not be on that one.

Thanks, good to get some constructive thoughts. Thankfully my meta doesn't really have any Ygritte to worry about.

 

I played a game last night and the Follower of the MFG came in surprisingly handy just as a repeat military claim, then with the Iron Link on another maester use him as a fairly handy stealth military attacker with a repeatedly bronzed-linked Apprentice Chain attached. But you're right, the events and balance still need looking at, especially with the number of kneel-a-Maester costs.

 

I'm thinking Copper Link + Dissension might make its way in as a combo.

I don't like followers because

 

1) they are expensive. Actually if it's not your request, I would recommend you not  to use neutral house. If you are using neutral house, the right way is not to insert a lot neutral staffs, but lots of cards from at least three houses. In your case, you only use stark and targ characters. In this case it's better to use house stark or targ. You don't get any benefits from your house card. If you use stark, followers become much better.

 

2) stalwart will hurt your draw. It works just like maester aemon, but you draw one less card each round. You already have maester aemon and I suppose you would get him out using at the gate round 1, I don't see that followers can provide anything new. If you cannot use his other abilities like stand a stark, carrion birds are much better than followers. They don't need any combo to be a 1-gold military stealth guy which is 1-gold cheaper than followers. Not to mention the pre-errata-carrion-birad+copper-link broken combo.

 

Another thought is that usually we put Apprentice collar on a maester. It's not only because of the errata, but also we want to protect our maesters from being blank. If he is blanked, all links would be discarded. However your deck depends on your meta. If blanking staffs (nightmare, meera) are not common like Ygritte, you don't need to worry about them. (In my place nightmare is very popular.)

 

Edit: You have several cards which provide influences. Don't use them since you don't need influences.

Edit: You don't need all of characters to be maesters. What you need is that when you win a challenge you have a maester on board. Switch some bad maesters to good characters who can help you win challenges.

Edit: For a 48 cards deck, 12 locations are fine. But for a 60 cards deck, 12 locations are bad, not to mention some of these locations don't provide economy.

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