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Ruhr Valley

Submitted Darksbane , May 24 2013 04:02 PM | Last updated May 24 2013 04:02 PM

	Ruhr Valley Type: Upgrade: Region Cost: 6 Faction: Corp Haas-Bioroid Faction Cost: 3 As an additional cost to make a run on this server, the Runner must spend [Click]. Limit 1 region per server. Trash: Set: Future Proof Number: 111 Quantity: 3 Illustrator: Yoann Boissonnet
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8 Comments

Verhexung

Jun 01 2013 08:20 AM

Does this effect also apply in cases where runs are made through cards? (e.g., with The Maker's Eye or Sneakdoor Beta) So in order to play or use such cards, the runner must be able to pay an additional click?

paradoX

Jun 01 2013 10:03 AM

Does this effect also apply in cases where runs are made through cards? (e.g., with The Maker's Eye or Sneakdoor Beta) So in order to play or use such cards, the runner must be able to pay an additional click?

Read the text on the cards. All of them say 'Make a run.'
There is your answer.

Verhexung

Jun 01 2013 06:00 PM

Read the text on the cards. All of them say 'Make a run.'
There is your answer.

That was my first reaction, yes, and perhaps I'm reading too much into it, but it also seemed possible that playing an event card was already enough to "pay for the run", and when would you have to pay for the additional click? as an added cost to the card? or as a cost to making the run? (but I suppose those are one and the same)

Just making sure that Ruhr Valley wasn't for some reason restricted to only affecting the cost of runs made normally without the initiation by another card.

I suppose that what clarifies this for me is that, for example, such event types (like The Maker's Eye and Demolition Run) are classified as "Event: Run" and therefore count as runs themselves, and so would incur the required extra cost in order to even play the card.

Something like this was the explanation I was looking for.

paradoX

Jun 02 2013 12:08 AM

That was my first reaction, yes, and perhaps I'm reading too much into it, but it also seemed possible that playing an event card was already enough to "pay for the run", and when would you have to pay for the additional click? as an added cost to the card? or as a cost to making the run? (but I suppose those are one and the same)

It's a click for the run. Like I said, all therun modifiers say: 'Make a run.' After that the effect of the modifier. It's clearly seperated. This might seem a little picky but there are other examples where you have to read the text correctly or you would get a completely different result.

Zephyr

Jun 02 2013 02:04 PM

There are many things that can be misinterpreted in game of this complexity.
Seriously, its not just "read the cards, all is clear, period"

I understand this Upgrade effect as "any kind of effect that allows you to make a run has its cost increased by a click" and IMO it applies to events as well, not only basic runner run action.

I don't see much arguments to support alternative version.

Edit:
Doppelganger (A Study In Static) is another type of card that allows runs, this one should also be affected by Ruhr Valley IMO