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Nasir Meidan: Cyber Explorer



Nasir Meidan: Cyber Explorer

Nasir Meidan: Cyber Explorer


Type: Identity: Cyborg
Base Link: 1
Faction: Runner Shaper
Whenever you encounter a piece of ice that was just rezzed, lose all credits in your credit pool. Gain credits equal to the rez cost of that ice.
Minimum Deck Size/Influence Limit: 45/15
Set: Upstalk Number: 017 Quantity: 3
Illustrator: Matt Zeilinger
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20 Comments

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HalomanZero
Jul 18 2014 07:56 PM

This could be a fun ability.  But right now, I'm just seeing the Corp emptying the Runner's credit pool when they're in danger with a low-cost ICE. 

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LynxMegaCorp
Jul 19 2014 05:29 PM

That should *never* be the case with Nasir, as he makes great use of all the recurring credit cards out there: Paricia and/or Scrubber (trashing), Inside Man (hardware), Cyberfeeder / Cloak (virus / icebreakers), Gorman Drip / Ice Analyzer (passive credit income for funding large tools), The Toolbox, etc.

 

Can't forget his must-have resource; Personal Workshop. That card alone will make Nasir a big threat (combine with passive income of your choice to suit your strategy).

 

You can also use the corp's ice to your advantage in the form of Emergency Shutdown and Crescentus (target their large ice).

 

Conclusion: There are more than enough ways for Nasir to avoid being screwed over by his own ability.

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Plus, you could always wait and run on unrezzed ICE only when your "bank" is empty. You've got nothing to lose (and plenty of recurring credits standing by to use on your breakers.) He's pretty cool!

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Hmm, I wonder what the timing structure would be if you're running Compromised Employee with him. Would he lose all of his creds then gain the credit from Comp or vice versa?

No flavour text on an identity card makes me sad.

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LynxMegaCorp
Jul 27 2014 11:45 AM

"Let's not waste each other's time."

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swornabsent
Aug 02 2014 02:55 AM

POP-UP WINDOW AAAAAGAHJ

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LynxMegaCorp
Aug 02 2014 04:11 AM

Thankfully Ghost Runner and Cache should minimize the impact of low-cost ice (and spare you from running broke). Nasir *might* also benefit from Bad Publicity-forcing cards for that recurring credit (which can mean a lot over the course of a game).

Hmm, I wonder what the timing structure would be if you're running Compromised Employee with him. Would he lose all of his creds then gain the credit from Comp or vice versa?

 

Edit: I'm afriad the CE's credits are lost because Ice is rezzed first and only then it is encountered by the runner, thus CE's effect happens prior to Nasir's ability, not simultaneously.

 

Thankfully Ghost Runner and Cache should minimize the impact of low-cost ice (and spare you from running broke). Nasir *might* also benefit from Bad Publicity-forcing cards for that recurring credit (which can mean a lot over the course of a game).

Credits received from bad pub are lost when ice is rezzed as well, aren't they?

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LynxMegaCorp
Aug 11 2014 08:26 PM

Sure, but you could still use it to pump an icebreaker like Gordian or Pipeline if you have already-rezzed ice of those types behind the derezzed ice you're going to encounter (I'm pretty sure you can do that before the ice is rezzed.)

btw, how would other icebreakers (stregth of which is not increased by the end of the run) work in such situation? Say you pump a corroder right before you encounter a code gate (cuz you know there're barriers ahead) but you obviously don't use it to break any subroutines at that time. I suppose the strength of such icebreaker is reset once the encounter with the said code gate ends?

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LynxMegaCorp
Aug 14 2014 12:29 AM

You'd be correct. That's why breakers like Pipeline, Gordian Blade and Battering Ram specifically state "for the remainder of this run".

Pumping that Corroder right before you encounter a newly-rezzed barrier is also useless.  You can activate +STR paid abilities on icebreakers any time, including during the approach, but they won't actually add STR unless you're in the encounter.

 

So STR boosts last until end of encounter for most breakers - with the hitch that you can't actually receive the boost to STR outside of an encounter.

Never knew that "+x STR until the end of the run" only works while encountering ICE. I thought it works for as long as you're in a run -- i.e. declare you're running, pump all your permaSTR-breakers, go encounter some ICE before you lose money to unrezzed stuff.

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CommissarFeesh
Sep 15 2014 12:37 PM

Never knew that "+x STR until the end of the run" only works while encountering ICE. I thought it works for as long as you're in a run -- i.e. declare you're running, pump all your permaSTR-breakers, go encounter some ICE before you lose money to unrezzed stuff.


That's a perfectly valid play. It's cards like Corroder etc which don't keep their +Str outside an encounter which you can't pump at any other time.

Credits received from bad pub are lost when ice is rezzed as well, aren't they?

 

Don't know. We should check the rules. It depends on whether they state that bad pubs credits are placed 'within your credit pool.'

 

 

Overall I think this id definitely suits the stealth ressources + breakers, with which you don't need much credits to pass big ices.

 

Plus shaper offers the best cards to spend credits during a run (SMC, PW).

Nasir makes Draco a lot more useful for the corp, especially a Chummed one.

Don't know. We should check the rules. It depends on whether they state that bad pubs credits are placed 'within your credit pool.'

 

 

Overall I think this id definitely suits the stealth ressources + breakers, with which you don't need much credits to pass big ices.

 

Plus shaper offers the best cards to spend credits during a run (SMC, PW).

According to the FAQ:

  • Nasir loses any bad publicity credits he has when his ability resolves.

Normally, an identity adds a boost to your deck. In the case of Nasir, we built a deck to nullify its odd ability. 

Hmm, I wonder what the timing structure would be if you're running Compromised Employee with him. Would he lose all of his creds then gain the credit from Comp or vice versa?

 

He gains the credit at step 2.3 of the run, when the ICE is rezzed. He loses the credit at step 3.1, when he encounters the ICE.

 

There's a paid ability window at step 2.3, however, which means that if he has something to spend that credit on, like boosting the strength of a Battering Ram or Gordian Blade, helping pay something off Personal Workshop, or helping pay for an SMC or Savoir-faire trigger, Nasir can do so before he loses all the credits in his credit pool.

 

That's how he works: Step 2.3 is his bread and butter.


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