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Feeding the Pit



Feeding the Pit

Feeding the Pit


Type: Objective
Faction: Dark Scum and Villainy
Tatooine.
Scum and Villainy affiliation only.
Action: Discard a captured card from this objective to remove 1 damge from this objective. Then, draw 1 card.
"Put him in."
- Jabba the Hutt, Return of the Jedi

Health: 5
Resources Generated: 2
Block Number: 86 - 1 of 6
Set: Edge of Darkness Number: 396
Illustrator:
* * * * -   4 Bounty Hunting Scum have rated this card!
Other Cards in Block 86
Block Stats:
# Units: 3
Total Cost: 10
Average Cost: 2
Total Force Icons: 6
Average Force Icons: 1.2
Recent Decks Using This Card:


18 Comments

Does this objective work like Tribal Support, in that as long as I pay the cost (Discard a captured card from this objective...), I do not necessarily have to benefit from all of the rewards?

I was playing a game where I had a couple cards on this objective and I discarded them even though the objective had no damage on it. I WAS able to draw a card, which was the main reason (aside from semi-permanently removing a valuable captured card from my opponent's reach) I decided to use the objective's ability.

Was that OK, or does the objective HAVE to be damaged in order to use its ability?
i actually had the same question. I have yet to test this set out in my scum deck but its up next and was wondering the same thing. can i just use the draw function without having to actually heal the objective. I am personally leaning towards yes you can, but then i was wrong on reversal of fate so who knows.....
it has to be damaged. its the same like Falcon, send falcon to hand to put a unit into play. no unit, no hand, no damage, no draw.
Actually Elrathion, I think that the required part of a card effect or ability is the payment part. The reward is received if you can receive it. Just look at Tribal Support. You can pay the cost of that objective (discard a card from hand) to gain the reward (return an Ewok unit from your discard pile to your hand.). If there is no Ewok, you paid the cost, but you get no "benefit". As a side note, many players feel that the cost in this case is also a rather decent benefit - the fact that you can discard a 2nd card per turn - and will gladly use this objective's ability even if they know there are no ewoks in their discard. In fact the recent FAQ made explicit allowance for this and has been confirmed by Nate in the past.

With Feeding the Pit, I am proposing the same situation. You pay the cost, but don't get all the benefits. Healing Feed the Pit is definitely NOT part of the cost.

I am going to go ahead and submit a rules query on this and the Falcon, to be sure.
OK, I got in touch with Nate on this one.

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Me: For Feeding the Pit, you can choose to discard the captured card (the cost), but if you can't heal the objective, you can't draw a card. You still, however, have succeeded in discarding that captured card (which is a rather nice way of putting valuable cards more out of reach of your opponent). Correct?

Nate: Correct. The cost is still paid (the captured card is discarded), but as there is no damage on the objective, nothing is healed. Since nothing is healed, the "then" effect following it does not resolve either.

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So, this teaches us to look out for "then" statements to make sure that they can be resolved. So I was partly right about this card, and partly wrong.
How are you getting replys so fast. I have emailed 3 questions in since last week and have yet to get 1 question answered?
Very weird. My experience with him is usually within 30 minutes he responds. Where are you submitting the qestions?
So.. Does this imply you can get the falcon back in your hand even without playing a unit?

Very weird. My experience with him is usually within 30 minutes he responds. Where are you submitting the qestions?


I have used the link in the rules clarification thread for 3 questions all sent late last week, and have had no replies yet.

So.. Does this imply you can get the falcon back in your hand even without playing a unit?


Yes, but if you have an eligible unit, you have to put it in to play.
That sounds weird since your hand is a hidden zone.
It does sound weird. I'm just passing on the ruling.
Would many players be inclined to use its ability just to discard a captured card?

Would many players be inclined to use its ability just to discard a captured card?


umm...yes. I can't tell you how many times I've had my Han or Luke captured just to see it get discarded by this effect. GRR!! Such an evil card.
Push him in.

umm...yes. I can't tell you how many times I've had my Han or Luke captured just to see it get discarded by this effect. GRR!! Such an evil card.


I was playing on OCTGN and made my opponent discard Han in such a manner. He was so displeased . Truly evil.
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CataractCowboy
Nov 01 2016 08:04 PM
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OK, I got in touch with Nate on this one.

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Me: For Feeding the Pit, you can choose to discard the captured card (the cost), but if you can't heal the objective, you can't draw a card. You still, however, have succeeded in discarding that captured card (which is a rather nice way of putting valuable cards more out of reach of your opponent). Correct?

Nate: Correct. The cost is still paid (the captured card is discarded), but as there is no damage on the objective, nothing is healed. Since nothing is healed, the "then" effect following it does not resolve either.

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So, this teaches us to look out for "then" statements to make sure that they can be resolved. So I was partly right about this card, and partly wrong.

 

The links in the post above already say so but I want to put it here right beneath the card: section 3.6 of the FAQ reverses this answer.


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