Question: Can this be played if I have all my units committed to the force? I'm thinking the 'Then' part isn't included in the play restrictions, but wanted to make sure.

I'm reading that according to FAQ 3.6, you cannot play this if you have no uncommitted units at the time you initiate the action. All aspects of the effect must be able to legally resolve at the time of initiation.

 

"If, given the current game state, it is impossible for at least one aspect of the effect to resolve, the ability cannot be triggered."

 

If the second sentence had a trailing "if able" it would a legal initiation, see cards such as Aggression, Punch It and Entangled.

Thanks for your input. I checked 3.6 but see it differently and have convinced myself it can be played. It says 'at least some independent aspect of the card's ability effect might successfully resolve'. Removing a unit from the force should be enough to make it playable, and the rest fizzles. Committing a different unit is a dependent aspect. I'll confirm with FFG unless there are other thoughts.

FAQ Section 3.6 does not prevent A Gift from the Past from being played if all of your units are committed.

I'm confused, then. Can I get the "explain it like I'm five" explanation?

 

3.6 says if it is impossible for at least one aspect to resolve under the current game state, it can't be initiated.

 

I can certainly remove a unit from the force, no problem there. But how do I choose another target unit legally, if all of them are committed?

 

When I have all my units committed, is it not impossible to commit them again?

3.6 says if it is possible for at least one independent aspect to resolve under the current game state, it can be initiated.

"3.6 says if it is impossible for at least one aspect to resolve under the current game state, it can't be initiated."

that's just a wording problem: it just means that at least one aspect has to resolve

 

EDIT FOR CLARITY

Actually, the choosing a target is a different issue from section 3.6.  In addition to needing to have at least part of the effect resolve, you also need to be able to choose legal targets.  That may keep it from working, depending on how the targeting requirements are interpreted.  I'll double check.

I've confirmed with Erik that A Gift from the Past can be played in this situation (assuming that at least 1 of the units is not Lost Master).

-Section 3.6 of the FAQ is satisfied because there is an aspect of the effect that can resolve.
-The targeting restrictions are met because it only requires that you target another unit, not another unit that is not committed (i.e. There is no implied targeting restriction that requires you to pick a non-committed target).

I'm no longer. I was reading the language as if it said if it were impossible for any of the aspects to resolve then it wouldn't resolve, instead of reading it as if it were impossible for any of the aspects to resolve.

 

If it was worded as "The ability cannot be triggered if none of the aspects of the effect can resolve given the current game state" I wouldn't have gotten confused.

 

The intent is that as long as one aspect can resolve, it's good, not that all aspects need to be able to resolve

Rulings

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