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Shard of the Deceiver
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Shard of the DeceiverType: Army Unit Faction: Necrons Cost: 7 Attack Value: X Hit Points: X Command Icons: 2 Signature/Loyalty: Traits: C’tan. Elite. X is equal to the number of cards in your discard pile. Forced Reaction: After a phase or combat round at this planet begins, discard a card. If you have no cards in your hand discard this unit. Set: The Warp Unleashed Number: 130 Quantity: 3 Illustrator: Antonio José Manzanedo |
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28 Comments
Guaranteed to be a 2/4/4 if it's still there when it's time to swing.
Fluff-wise I love the design behind this card. [Though I'm not sure it is actually viable at all..] Effectively, when you shield damage assigned to the C'tan it'll gain +1 HP (and +1 ATK) each time you do so. The Star God feeds off your spent cards. It comes at a really steep cost though.. £7 and at least four cards (if you count the C'tan itself) + at least one card in your discard pile before it can swing..
So is that last part a constant effect (discard this unit if at anytime you have no cards in hand while at this planet) or is it discarded only as a reaction, i.e. discard this unit if you have no cards left to discard when a phase or a combat round begins at this planet?
The former, right?
-Good thing Fall Back doesn't work when your opponent is forced to discard it
The latter, the reaction only reacts when it reacts, that is after a phase or combat round at its planet begins.
Bear in mind that if you had to discard down to 0 it still dies.
Will be great that one time at the final battle where this guy takes on Kugath and two Helldrakes single handedly....otherwise, no.
Deceiver indeed. A deceptively good card (that actually isn't good) with deceptive abs ....
Not the hero the Necrons had hoped, but the one they deserve
At that point, using Anakyr you could have this card set up some very nice plays.
But discarding that many cards to even use it at first planet on the turn you deploy it? Too much card disadvantage.
You are summoning the shard of a god to the battlefield. I guess it should have a steep price for a ridiculous effect. I have no clue how you use this practically. It seems you only want to pull it out for a game winning planet when you have significant card advantage. If it didn't have that steep a cost it would probably be broken.
Its HP is almost irrelevant, as its durability is time-based. The forced reaction will very rapidly empty the player's hand. Meanwhile the attack value is likely to be huge, but who cares? Just face off against it with a sufficient number of units, and it will eventually self destruct.
And if you keep it in play long enough to win the battle, you're still probably going to empty your hand before the next deploy phase begins.
This should have cost 5R, I feel. It's not good enough for 7R. Even then, it'd only be a good deploy on the final turn of the game,
only becuase this looks so bad, I looked through the database a little, and found another bad card that ....could let you use it more than one planet. (Drumroll)
Calamity
Yeah, that really conditional and yet still bad card could feed your hand enough in a necron deck built around this interaction. Still doesn't change that he basically has a "discard 3 before FIRST swing " built into him, but hey.....yeah its bad.
Techmarine aspirant for multiple attacks at least .
Or you can combo with Shrieking Exarch, kill a unit draw a card. Keeping the monstrosity swinging, which in turn nets you more cards.
Potentially quite strong in a Monolith centered deck, and likely nowhere else.
This is not a bad idea. At least not for a all-or-nothing jank-styled deck. The Shard seems to be a desperate gamble if you play it; either it wins you the game, or it empties your hand and is discarded (and you likely lose).
[This, by the way, seems very Necron-like so great design indeed imho
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The former can definitely happen given the right preparations and circumstances, but just one single Archon's Terror or Inquisitorial Fortress - not to mention a Klaivex and it's all over. (And there'll likely not be a backlash left in your hand to play by the time you need it to counter a rout, exhaust, or a Warleader).
Now if the C'tan goes to your HQ unexpectedly during the combat phase (for any reason, including, say, an Y'varn trigger) you're stuck with a crippling six-card discard before the first opportunity to swing with it again, which will likely empty your hand an leave you in a very bad position.
The C'tan also has the problem of being solely a late-play card, which means if you get a copy in your starting hand it is likely similar to a dead card. This card will be very difficult to include in any setup I think. However, this is the Necrons and their play-style and mechanics are already quite different from the seven factions in the alignment wheel; there may yet be a place for the C'tan after all.
I'm pretty sure that other means of playing or getting cards from the discard pile would have come in future expansions.
For now there is Harbinger , which likes new events to populate the discard pile.
So, has anyone had some fun or even gotten some use out of the C'tan yet? Just being curious
Backlash ?
Should have been unique and immune to Power events a la Frenzied Bloodthirster. It's a star god with near-unlimited power after all.
Its a "Shard" of a star god that used to have unlimited power. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be better, but AS good as a frenzied bloodthirster would be nice.
Anyone have any experience with the C'tan by now? I played it first time today, and it ended up being a decisive factor in securing the win by being a 24/24, but it was kinda standing on a knife's edge regarding it draining all cards and then effectively ensuring a loss..
By the way, hypothetically, if you blank out its text box, say, using Salaine's signature event or Twisted Laboratory, it instantly dies right?
Not had a chance to play it myself just yet, but yes, blanking its text would result in it instantly being defeated.
Well I can only encourage people to try it out. Just keep in mind that it does run a mafioso-style protection scheme where you either pay or it won't help you, but make you sorry instead. Let's make the C'tan great again!
[cough]
Nah it's actually just a male stripper, constantly demanding payment to keep the show going. Have you seen those abs?