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[jonny117]

I've played this game a small amount, but I have a friend who owns almost all of the cards and plays solo 99% of the time.

 

He feels that Glorfindel is too powerful of a hero and that a Solo deck can't win without him.

 

Personally, I find this hard to believe, the card is really good, but I think there's other strategies he hasn't thought of?

 

 

[Asmoridin]

I mean, you could easily build an Outlands deck that can crush some of the quests solo.

 

The only sort of deck I find Glorfindel an auto-include is secrecy decks :-S

[slothgodfather]

Glorfindel is really good, there is no doubt about it.   But I like using Elladan, Elrohir and Eowyn for my solo deck.  Gives you access to everything except healing.  Also, between their innate abilities, unexpected courage and Light, you can get multiple uses out of Elladan and Elrohir so you can handle things when multiple enemies come out due to surge or treachery cards.  Eowyn is clearly just there for the questing, and her ability allows you to push your quest value a little more each turn if necessary.    

[OKTarg]

There are a ton of decks that can do well solo: I have a monoleadership Gondor deck that won most of the Against the Shadow quests solo, as well as a Boromir/Faramir/Mirlonde deck that did the same. None of these is considered "powerhouse" decks by and large, so it can be done.

 

I also bet Dwarves can beat most anything.

[Kennon2nd]

Mirlonde? Wow. Just wow. I am impressed.

 

 

But yeah, I'd have to second Outlands. I've got a Hirluin, Aragorn, Eleanor Outlands deck that is my default for solo. No healing, but solid resource acceleration and cancelation, plus questing and combat once you have a few Outlanders up and running. Plus the Ally recursion stands in fairly well for healing.

[Tragic]

She is a beyond awesome hero. Key include for a number of decks for dropping initial threat.

[scottl1974]

I used to run a mono sphere lore deck with aragorn, mirlonde and denethor. Only problem I had with it was low initial willpower for questing made some quests rough early on. (drawing a second stone giant on the first turn for the 2nd quest in overhill underhill comes to mind in particular)

 

But once you got a rivendell minstrel and a song of kings going to get blade that was broken out, it really started to rock. Amazing card draw with mithrandir's advice. Scry with henamarths, denethor, rumor from the earth, and risk some light. Best allies in the game in terms of cost for ability. (Eg: Wandering ent, celeborn, gildor inglorian, mirkwood runner, warden of healing ect) All that AND incredible threat control with lore-agorn's reset ability.

 

Competitive solo deck without glorfindel is easy to do.......glorfindel is just way to powerful for people to look beyond is all. It's actually my personal opinion even though I run him in my main solo deck atm, that he should never have been printed with the threat cost he does. He should have at the VERY least been an 8 or 9, and only had 3 MAYBE 4 health and only IF his threat was increased to reflect that. And even that would be really pushing it.......

 

No two ways about it though, Glorfindel is just to much bang for your buck.

[SandSnowRiver]

Glorfindel is for when the encounter deck wants to have a go at playing nightmare mode...

[KennedyHawk]

She is a beyond awesome hero. Key include for a number of decks for dropping initial threat.

 

Agreed I've found she slots great into ranger trap decks for that threat drop.

[Serazu]

I included him in my Outlands deck paired with Beravor and, of course, Hirluin. Then, I replaced Beravor with Grima and Glorfindel with Galadriel and found the new deck to be more consistent. Glorfindel is the best hero in the game, sure, but that doesn't mean he's the optimal solution for every deck.

[Asmoridin]

To me, the better question is: Can you make a decent Secrecy deck without Glorfindel?

[Kennon2nd]

I'm not sure about that one. I would really love to build a hobbit secrecy deck, but it kills me everytime that three hobbits start too high to play it. We've house ruled Secrecy to be 25 threat here for that reason.

[thepaintedgoblin]

I've been running a very successful Silvan solo deck that features Mirlonde.

You can find it here:

http://www.cardgamed...van-updated-r86

 

There's a few quests it can't handle due to specific requirements of that quest, but it succeeds against most.

The thing that really makes me keep coming back to this deck again and again is that it's pure solo, thematic, and above all great fun and satisfying to play.

 

No Glorfindel in sight :-)

[mnBroncos]

I have never been able to even attempt secrecy. It's just not possible and not enough amazing cards for it to limit your heroes so much

[Asmoridin]

I have never been able to even attempt secrecy. It's just not possible and not enough amazing cards for it to limit your heroes so much

 

You've not even attempted it?  How could you say its not possible then?

 

Seriously, Secrecy is almost there.  It has some really good options, and some very cost effective tools.  You really should give it a shot.

I did the Glorfindel secrecy thing for a while- a couple Resourcefuls come out, and all of a sudden your entire deck becomes monstrous. 

 

You definitely should give it a shot.

[mnBroncos]

Okay by giving it a shot I mean actually playing with a deck. I have put lists together but the secrecy cards never seemed to out way running better heroes. 

[Asmoridin]

But Glorfindel is already a great hero!  Light of Valinor, a couple of Resourceful on the table, and you're practically getting the effects of having three heroes out!

 

You're missing out!  At the very least, it's a very different experience.

[mnBroncos]

I will try it out seems different at least. 

[slothgodfather]

I've got a silvan secrecy deck atm, that starts at 21 threat with Haldir, Glorfindel and Eleanor.  It uses several of the various cards to lower your threat, naturally includes Resourceful, but the main function of it is to use Courage Awakened and Noiseless Movement each turn, potentially for free with Leaf Brooch.

 

The point I feel Broncos is making is that what actual cards are there that are worth focusing on secrecy?   Mine is to keep using Courage Awakened every turn, but I could just as easily include another ally that has 2 will power and basically get the same effect.    So what am I actually gaining from including cards to keep my threat low other than the novelty and resourceful?   not much really, other than a fun theme with bouncing silvans (regardless of secrecy) and helping ensure I can use Haldir each turn.

[mnBroncos]

yea and that is my real concern about secrecy. with such a limit on your deck building wish there was some jaw dropping effects for going secrecy not just cheaper okay cards.