I'd include more artifact and ritual support cards for Meiger, e.g. the doorway. Don't be afraid to look for out of faction cards like Cursed Skull or Rite of the Silver Gate. You have ways to get rid of them if you draw them anyway.

That was my initial idea - a Joseph Meiger toolbox deck (with Y'ha-nthlei Statue, etc.) but, call it a bad luck - I always draw the things meant to be tutored with him. You may be right tough and it's better to put some of the cards back. I'm not completely sure how to put them back in the deck once used/discarded.

I think in this type of deck with mono-ST, x3 of BRB and Initiation are necessary to get your big dudes out and maintain your card advantage. I would also throw in a couple copies of the Doorway. Rites of the Gate would also be good to deal with AOs, if you happen to draw one, you can always resource it in order to play another later if necessary.

I'm afraid I'm not very familiar with all the abbreviations... what is BRB?

I'm afraid I'm not very familiar with all the abbreviations... what is BRB?

Sorry, B. Ramsdale

Thank you. I might try this toolbox version once more.
I have one question - how does Initiation and Failed Initiate interact? If I understand it correctly, sacrificing the Initiate is a part of the cost, so the Forced response won't trigger before resolving all of the Initiation's text. Am I correct?

Thank you. I might try this toolbox version once more.
I have one question - how does Initiation and Failed Initiate interact? If I understand it correctly, sacrificing the Initiate is a part of the cost, so the Forced response won't trigger before resolving all of the Initiation's text. Am I correct?

Correct! He will be discarded for the cost before his ability kicks in. On a similar note, I have been dissatisfied with the Butler...is there any particular reason you're including him?

Only because he's a cheap character that can put a success token or two in the early game.

I've got Dedicated Butler in a Twilight/Yog-Sothoth deck with the intent that he seed the discard pile with characters to be resurrected through Rite of the Silver Key, but it never seems to pan out. The intent of the deck was to artificially accelerate Rite of the Silver Key and Ritual of the Construct with Magical Theorist, but that too never seems to pan out.

No cats in cradles?


... I'll get my coat

I like unscrupulous acquisitionist in Silver twilight rush. He may shut an opponent domain down to secure you from surprises or its additional bounce of one of your opponents characters. Just remember to be careful to throw him out if there are sewer rats, many angled things or other nasty come-into- play cards around but even then he helps to clear the board for the that turn you want to push your attack.

It may or may not be the scope of your deck, but Nathan wick combos quite explosively with the Initiate of Huang hun. Hard cast the Initiate 2 times, plus discard 2-3 cards to sneak him into play via Nathan those times and you have cleared the board of 5 characters, a way few opponents recover from especially if they rely on heavy cost cards. Its a fragile easily disrupted combo but if you already include the initiate and are thinking of initiation to sneak high power characters into play think about Wick. Of course Wick and prepared alienist don't mix well. It is another independent though

I've been trying to build a ST deck today. It seems, much like everyone else, I have noticed a distrubing trned for ideas that just don't work. They should.. but they don't. So ST is missing somehting to make them work... but what?

Silver Twilight to me seems like needing 2 other factions like be great for a faction that can rush little bit and then kill off some characters and then use silver twilight to use Huang Hun to keep bouncing back all their other characters letting you rush to finish.

Silver Twilight to me seems like needing 2 other factions like be great for a faction that can rush little bit and then kill off some characters and then use silver twilight to use Huang Hun to keep bouncing back all their other characters letting you rush to finish.

I have always loved their 3-cost range of characters. The events and supports are all sub-par. In a day deck, there are good options, but needs another faction to really round them out for competitive play.

Their faction strategy of sacrificing board advantage for card advantage, or to trigger situational conditional effects, is not very competitive. That said, they can get a lot of bigger characters out fairly early with the right cards.

Hey they have AT LEAST one good support card.

Plus an event that lets you play characters for cheap!

Hey they have AT LEAST one good support card.

Plus an event that lets you play characters for cheap!

Their rituals are all pretty much crap, unless you try to break them with sacrifice loops and such. But 3-cost supports in an environment of easy support destruction is pretty much out of the question.

I do like The Doorway, and Hermetic Seal has it's uses. I've never played it but I imagine The Oubliettes could be useful in certain matchups too. Other than that... What were you thinking of?

You caught me, hermetic seal.
Although I've put the silver lance into Joseph Meiger decks. Uncertain about whether its really worth it.

You caught me, hermetic seal.
Although I've put the silver lance into Joseph Meiger decks. Uncertain about whether its really worth it.

Yeah, I've thought of Silver Lance too. One copy. I think it should go in very specific builds though. Maybe one that tries to do more domain draining and resource destruction. Thinking of Torch the Joint and Er'nrawr maybe. Or Hastur lunatics to drive their weenies insane and bounce their 3-cost dudes and have N'yog Sothoth to keep a cramp on their domains.

Mine was just a boring old Negotium reduce your opponents three cost characters type play--I'd be interested in trying a domain draining type thing. Seems like a fun idea for a tri-faction deck