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Jaqen H'ghar
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Darksbane
, Aug 18 2010 05:57 PM | Last updated Mar 01 2011 06:20 PM
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Combine this with unchanged cost, STR and crappy Ally trait and you have a card that's both a gold and power sink.
However, for non-competitive matches I expect he'll be very fun to play.
How? If all 3 challenges are UO that's 6 power in Renown and UO. Even if you have 3 claim + opposing titles in a melee game that is still only 10 power.
So you turned him into an expensive, Ally-traited Stannis Baratheon (VM)? Still not convinced.
Now this is a favorable position. But it's not really a convincing argument in Jaqen's favor.
Well, I never said anything like this, but since you are asking: I would never play him in any tournament deck with current card pool. That said, he sure can be fun.
I would say: at that point Asha and any weenie with power icon would have won you this game as well. But again - I can see his potential.
Immune is a keyword, but the following text of that keyword is considered modifying game text, in short you could not select Jaqen H'ghar to be immune to anything. As to what keywords can be chosen, only those that appear on a printed legal card in the LCG is a possible choice.
Yes he is fragile, & not worth a play if there is less than 2 power on your house card in the challenge phase.
You can't do that. There is no window during shadows where you can use his effect to stop Varys. Varys IS the end all be all when it comes to Jaquen. There is no way that Jaquen himself can keep himself safe from Varys. Theres no window for you to use a any phase action during the shadows action window. Also, since Varys is not a triggered effect, you can't cancel him either. The only way that you can stop him is with a dupe or with Blood And Fire out of Targ......that i know of.
Edit: Besides, even if you could do that, his ability isn't a response, so you can't use it when Varys comes out of shadows to give him Stalwart.
"A card is “discarded from play†if it is removed from play by a discard effect. Unless affected by a replacement effect, cards that have been discarded from play are placed in the discard pile when they leave the moribund state."
Just like Joffrey Baratheon (Core) can claim 1 power while he is in the moribund state after being killed, (Which happened to me once for my opponent to gain his 15th power. lol) so can Jaqen discard 1 power to gain Stalwart in the moribund state after being discarded by shadow Varys. (Yes I know Joffrey's ability is a Response.)
Here is from pg. 13 of the rules:
"A play restriction is an element that controls when or how often the character ability may be triggered. Viserion's ability has one play restriction. In its text, 'Dominance:' restricts which phase the ability may be triggered. If a character ability has the text 'Any Phase:' it is a way of specifying that the ability does not have a phase play restriction (though it may have other play restrictions).
If you cannot meet the play restrictions of a character ability, you may not trigger that character ability. Not all character abilities have play restrictions."
There is a Player Action Window after every, "Bring Cards Out of Shadows" framework action.
Stalwart (Stark) - When a card with the “Stalwart†keyword is killed or discarded from play, it is placed on the top of its owner’s deck instead of being placed in the dead or discard pile.
You see, at the point and time that he would be gaining Stalwart, he is already discarded from play. I believe the way this has been ruled is that Stalwart only affects the destination of Moribound if it is on the character before it is discarded from play. I think the justification on this is that it changes the destination of Moribound when the character is discarded/killed. The point at which you can give him Stalwart is after the point that he has been discarded from play. So, Stalwart wont change the destination because it missed the moment for that to happen. At least i believe this is the way it has been ruled. I'm about 90% sure on this. This entire discussion was had as soon as the spoiler hit and was determined to not work if i remember correctly.
EDIT: Actually according to stuff i've just read, you can't use any-phase actions during Moribound. You can use responses but you can't use Any-phase actions. So, what i just said doesn't even matter. This is the actual reason why he doesn't work. Only responses can be used during Moribound state. However, even if it was a response, i believe what i just said above is still the case on why it wouldn't work.
If it is not the case, it means you can nightmare a charagenda when it is moribunded or sweep the board with Poisoned Wine during a Threat from the North turn. No?
EDIT: Good point hop. Once a Charagenda enters Moribund you can't do anything to prevent it from becoming a agenda. That right there disproves the ability to use a any-phase action during moribund. Good catch.
The only way that you can stop him is with a dupe or with Blood And Fire out of Targ......that i know of.
For what it is worth, you could also use Maester of the Sun (ASoS), Strong Belwas (VD) or Maester Wendamyr (KotS).