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Doran's Favor

Nov 12 2017 12:36 AM by Verro

Thank you very much Actaeon.

Doran's Favor

Nov 10 2017 04:40 PM by Actaeon

You are correct, Vendor of Venoms with 2 power would not be discarded if you knelt an attached Doran's Favor. "Cannot" is absolute in aGoT LCG, so any time a card says that something cannot happen, that is the rule. The only way to get around an effect like "Cannot be discarded" is to blank the text of that card that gives it the immunity.

To address the additional point you brought up, immunity effects and save effects are not the same, so a card that is immune to discard ignores all the text about discarding it, even if that text normally precludes saving it.

Doran's Favor

Nov 08 2017 10:30 AM by Verro

Hi all, hope someone still follow the discussions for AGOT LCG 1E.

Is Vendor of Venom working with Doran's Favor? I mean, if it has 2 power points of it, and since discarding is not a cost but an effect, could it avoid to be discharged even if the card says "(cannot be saved)"? I guess that immunity to discard effect is not a save effect, but I would be sure.

Knights of the Hollow Hill

Oct 04 2017 03:36 AM by PIlger123

I need a copy of the "House of Dreams' and "knights of the hollow hill", but I'm from Brazil and I can not buy them here. Can anybody help me?

Orkmont Port

Oct 02 2017 03:35 PM by dayvisson3008
A very underestimated location. In the right deck, one of those in play will make your opponent crazy. Play two and your GJ deck becomes even faster than Bara.

Sep 15 2017 04:44 PM by dayvisson3008
Maybe the best Greyjoy attachment. Too bad it came too late.
Lysa Arryn

Sep 14 2017 09:23 PM by Actaeon

i don´t understand, cancel plots?

To clarify, Lysa Arryn does not necessarily cancel plots, it actually works on triggered effects that include the word "plot" or "non-plot" (although technically plot is already included in non-plot, so it's kind of redundant).


So what exactly does that mean? Well a triggered effect is any effect that starts with Bold Words before the text, and the bold words will either be the name of a phase (like as Plot or Challenges), Any Phase, or Response. It is also important to note that each paragraph on a card is a separate effect, so only a card which has a paragraph starting with a bold word and which includes the word "plot" in that specific paragraph is eligible to be canceled by Lysa Arryn.


A few examples:


Meera Reed (TftH) has two triggered effects on her card, one which puts her into shadows and one that takes her out of shadows. The effect that brings her out of shadows also allows her to blank 1 or 2 non-plot cards, so this effect CAN be canceled by Lysa Arryn. The effect that puts her into shadows does not include the words "plot" or "non-plot" so that effect CANNOT be canceled by Lysa Arryn.


Outwit (TIoR) has a response that cancels a plot effect. Lysa Arryn CAN cancel this effect because it uses the word "plot" (this is also the only Plot she can cancel since it is the only plot with a triggered effect using the word "plot", as well as the only plot with a triggered effect at all as best as I can remember).


The Eyrie (ADG) has the keyword "Immune to plot card effects" and has a triggered effect, but Lysa Arryn CANNOT cancel this effect because even though the word "plot" is on the card, it is not written in the triggered effect.


That might be a bit of over-explanation, but I hope it clears everything up.

Lysa Arryn

Sep 12 2017 07:44 PM by LuisFabian

i don´t understand, cancel plots?

Threat from the North

Sep 11 2017 08:44 PM by Actaeon

Can I save character from be discarded using Seafarer's Bow attachment, to increase the STR for partisipating charactrs?


It is important to note that you can use Seafarer's Bow to protect one character by kneeling the character or attachment before the plot is revealed, but both effects of Seafarer's Bow only last until the end of the phase. This means that you can keep the character from being discarded during the Plot Phase, but once the phase ends the character's STR reverts and it is immediately discarded.

Threat from the North

Sep 09 2017 02:58 AM by dayvisson3008

Can I save character from be discarded using Seafarer's Bow attachment, to increase the STR for partisipating charactrs?

If you use the bow before plots are revealed, yes. Otherwise no, because the bow's ability is an action, not a response.

Threat from the North

Sep 08 2017 11:47 AM by melic4
Can I save character from be discarded using Seafarer's Bow attachment, to increase the STR for partisipating charactrs?
The Withering Cold

Sep 07 2017 08:34 PM by dayvisson3008

This may work well with Power Rush strategy based on Vigilant or Prized Khal. It seems to require a lot of planning and a bit of luck, however.

Loyalty Money Can Buy

Aug 20 2017 10:31 PM by dayvisson3008

How it stucks with the "Red Vengeance" event?


Red Vengeance uses the modified claim value from opponent's plot on him or herself. It's usually a better idea to save it for use against challenges with revealed plots of 2 or more claim (or during those crucial moments when you need to keep things the way they are). If your opponent is already with zero claim there's no need to play Red Vengeance imo.

Loyalty Money Can Buy

Aug 16 2017 11:33 AM by melic4
How it stucks with the "Red Vengeance" event?
Without His Beard

Jul 30 2017 09:08 PM by dayvisson3008

I think it works well enough against Martell, but there are better options for your event slots.

Grey Wind

Jul 27 2017 09:24 PM by Actaeon

Although people commonly announce what characters they will declare stealth on when they first kneel their attackers, technically the declaration of stealth targets is the first step of the framework action for declaring defenders.

This means that you have to wait for the chance to use player actions in between the Player 1 kneeling attacker and Player 2 kneeling defenders before you can use Grey Wind. However, stealth doesn't take effect until after that window, so using Grey Wind or any other effect to kill an attacking character with stealth  you prevent Player 1 from bypassing a character with stealth.

Grey Wind

Jul 24 2017 12:24 PM by melic4
Guys, could you please clarify me next point:
1. Player_1 declares a challenge to Player_2 and kneel attacking character (which has stealth).
Question 1: can Player_2 kills attacking character using Grey Wind before stealth was declared?
2. If attacking character was not killed: Player_1 declares stealth using attacking character.
Question 2: can Player_2 kills attacking character using Grey Wind after stealth was declared? If YES, stealth still wokring? Or I can declare hidden character as defender, after attacking character was killed using Grey Wind?
King Balon's Host

Jul 23 2017 03:12 PM by dayvisson3008

This is my top 1 "king's army" of this cycle and one of the best of all times. Getting rid of Stealth and Deadly alone is huge both for offense or defense.

King Robert's Debt

Jul 16 2017 02:54 PM by DonHawK

So, 3x of these in every A Noble Cause Deck, then.


Borderland Keep

Jul 13 2017 03:01 PM by Actaeon

While you can use Borderland Keep to cancel a Red Vengeance, since it is a location your opponent will be aware that you have it. A savvy opponent will just save their Red Vengeance, or use He Calls It Thinking to cancel the cancel.

In Joust format at least, location based cancels are more often used to stifle options and force your opponent to play around or remove them rather than actually being used to cancel an effect. In a melee game there's a better chance of actually using it since you can use it during a challenge your not even involved in, but otherwise it's unlikely to actually be used in a game.

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