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After the Mummer's Ford
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Aug 02 2015 06:43 PM by lxlicybulletlxl

Sweet, that's how I was reading it.  Thanks!

Rickon Stark
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Jul 30 2015 02:19 PM by ktom

The biggest difference between "search for" and "choose a card" in the AGoT context is that whenever the word "choose" is used, the thing that is chosen counts as a "target" for game purposes. Something that is merely selected or the object of something that doesn't use some form of the word the word "choose" is not considered a target. This is why, for example, playing an attachment does not "target" the thing you put the attachment on because even though you intrinsically select it, you do not "choose" it.

 

Of course, as everyone says, the biggest difference between "choose a card from the Hold" and "search your deck for a card" is that the Hold is not considered to be a part of your deck, any more than the cards in Shadows are considered to be part of your deck or your hand. Further, the Hold is open information for you (you are allowed to look at it or reorder it at any time during the game) while the deck is not (must maintain order and you cannot look unless something specifically says so).

Rickon Stark
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Jul 30 2015 01:59 PM by chilligreen

On a semantics level I would think that 'choose' implies that you know it's there, i.e. the card you're choosing is one that you've already placed in a certain play area, whereas 'search' implies that you're looking through an unknown selection of cards and so there's a chance that you couldn't find what you're searching for.

 

It's a moot point either way - the hold is not your deck so Rickon doesn't trigger.

Rickon Stark
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Jul 30 2015 12:47 PM by Martell

well yeah, I was just wondering where the difference should be between "choosing a Card from the Hold" and "searching your deck"? Isn't "choosing" and "searching" the same in this context?

Janos Slynt
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Jul 30 2015 03:42 AM by ktom

No. You are not allowed to trigger an effect that will do nothing just because you want to pay the cost. (FAQ 3.6)

Janos Slynt
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Jul 29 2015 10:27 PM by Req

I understand I cannot draw a card if he's not kneeling (because he doesn't stand), but what about the opposite?

Can I stand him (from a kneeling status) even if I can't draw a card (because I reached the draw cap)? 

Rickon Stark
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Jul 29 2015 09:29 PM by NikolaP

Would Rickon's effect be applicable for the Black Sails Agenda?

No, Black Sails tells you to pick a card from your hold, Rickon allows you to copy effect that searches your deck.

Rickon Stark
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Jul 29 2015 08:15 PM by Martell

Would Rickon's effect be applicable for the Black Sails Agenda?

After the Mummer's Ford
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Jul 29 2015 04:57 PM by ktom

In AGoT, you generally treat each card as a separate effect that resolves independently. So if more than 1 player reveals this plot, #1 resolves and everyone gets an extra MIL challenge, and #2 resolves and everyone gets an extra MIL challenge. 1 (normal) + 1 (plot #1) + 1 (plot #2) = 3.

 

So the two plots do not "stack" in the sense that their effects do not combine into a single modifier on the number of challenges. But their results "stack" in the sense that since both add 1 independently, the final result is 2 more than normal.

 

Now, if the plot said something like "to a maximum of 2 MIL challenges," then no matter how many additional challenges you were granted, you couldn't initiate more than 2.

After the Mummer's Ford
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Jul 29 2015 04:39 PM by lxlicybulletlxl

Does this card stack with itself if more than one player were to lay it?  The use of the word "an" makes me believe that you can only issue a single additional challenge regardless of how many there are, but the use of the word "additional" makes me believe that you should be able to use one of the constant effects off one plot card, and then one off the other, making the word "an" simply refer to the card itself.  Shouldn't it say something more like, "Each player may initiate 2 military challenges instead of 1" be more appropriate to signify that they don't stack, as it simply replaces the value constantly as opposed to states that you get an additional challenge?

 

Not sure I understand the logic on this one.

Rusted Sword
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Jul 28 2015 06:13 PM by Starshadow88

Thank you 'ktom'.

Rusted Sword
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Jul 28 2015 05:33 PM by ktom

It means you can do either. You can pay 1 gold to play it from your hand during Marshaling the way you would with any attachment, or you can trigger its ability to put it into play during Any Phase - which could be helpful either because you don't have the extra gold in Marshaling, or you just want to surprise someone in the middle of a challenge.

Rusted Sword
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Jul 28 2015 03:59 PM by Starshadow88

I'm confused on this card.  It shows it costs 1 gold to put it into play.  But it says Any Phase: kneel 1 influence to attach it from your hand to a character you control."  So that seems to be contradictory.  Does this mean you can do either or?  Or what am I not understanding?

Ser Davos Seaworth
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Jul 28 2015 03:10 PM by Starshadow88

Than you 'theamazingmrg' I appreciate the clarification.

Arianne's Conspirators
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Jul 28 2015 07:12 AM by Redviper187

Meh, its ok if you're going heavy into the intrigue side of things. Maybe with the conclave and some other shenanigans.

The Golden Company
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Jul 27 2015 03:15 PM by ktom

Event cards go to the discard pile at the end of the action window in which they are played (unless something specifically says otherwise - like with Epic Battle events). You do not have to wait for a lasting effect to completely resolve (or become inactive) before putting them in the discard pile.

 

If you play an event in the challenge phase, its action window is going to have to close before you get to resolving the challenge (and ultimately triggering the Response on Golden Company). So the event will always be in the discard pile before you can trigger the response.

Ser Mandon Moore
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Jul 27 2015 03:09 PM by ktom

You can use the "Challenges" ability to bring him out of Shadows and into play at any time that you can take a player action in the Challenges phase - including the window between declaring attackers and declaring defenders (as you say, the most advantageous time to do so). Just keep in mind that your opponent will have the opportunity to stealth past him (if any of his attackers have stealth) before you can declare him as a defender.

Ser Davos Seaworth
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Jul 27 2015 03:04 PM by theamazingmrg

I don't understand this card.  The way I read this card is I can choose to save him by either paying one gold or simply returning  him to my hand. Why would I ever pay one gold?  So if I pay the one gold he goes to my hand.  Or if I don't pay the one gold I can still put him in my hand. 

You save him whether you spend gold or not. You pay the 1 gold because 1 gold is cheaper than three gold (to play him again if he goes back to hand.) and still leaves a character on the table that can be used for challenges/dominance.  If you don't pay the gold, he returns to your hand.  Which is preferable to the dead pile.

The Golden Company
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Jul 27 2015 11:35 AM by Carth

I understand that, but I didn't formulate the question as I should have. 

 

My question is: when does Ambush from the plains go to the discard card? How do you know, in general, when an event card goes in the discard pile? As soon as you play it? When the effect is over? 

 

To give a simple exemple, let's say I use nightmares during the challenge phase, and that I have no cards in the discard pile. I then decide to attack with the Golden Company. is nightmares already in the discard pile, meaning that I can get it back and immediately play it again, or is it still considered to be in the board since its effect is not over?

Ser Davos Seaworth
*****

Jul 26 2015 02:57 PM by Starshadow88

I don't understand this card.  The way I read this card is I can choose to save him by either paying one gold or simply returning  him to my hand. Why would I ever pay one gold?  So if I pay the one gold he goes to my hand.  Or if I don't pay the one gold I can still put him in my hand. 

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