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Eddard Stark
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Today, 08:12 AM by mnBroncos

yea that is what i thought just wanted to double check, thanks

Areo Hotah
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Today, 05:23 AM by NikolaP

But you have to kneel Areo Hotah, can you kneel a character that is moribund?

 

You can. That's what moribund is for.

Eddard Stark
*****

Today, 05:15 AM by NikolaP

Yes, "...reduce the gold penalty to play..."

Areo Hotah
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Today, 02:43 AM by Tivius

But you have to kneel Areo Hotah, can you kneel a character that is moribund?

Eddard Stark
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Today, 01:10 AM by mnBroncos

okay just getting clarification this still costs 6 during setup correct? if in bara of course.

Blackwood Elite
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Yesterday, 01:15 PM by oddjob

Don't forget you can always blank with Meera if you foresee a definite need to kill a different character for a round - or if you just wish to get rid of the Prized 2.

The Weasel's Way
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Yesterday, 11:59 AM by oddjob

haha that is funny i can see someone being a **** with this at melee. 

 

"wanna trade a character for a charcter" 

"sure"

after search

"yea we are going to discard that guy you got" haha

It's hilarious seeing people's reaction to this in joust. Usually when you flip those plots over they snicker and prepare to play against a bad deck or ask you if you grabbed your melee deck by accident - then they suddenly lose that smirk as soon as you play TWW and realize the card they wanted most is now in their discard while yours is in hand. 

The Weasel's Way
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Yesterday, 10:34 AM by mnBroncos

haha that is funny i can see someone being a **** with this at melee. 

 

"wanna trade a character for a charcter" 

"sure"

after search

"yea we are going to discard that guy you got" haha

Flame-Kissed
*****

Yesterday, 05:04 AM by Westah

Ok cheers for the reply. I thought it was that way but wasnt sure :)

The Weasel's Way
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Oct 29 2014 04:45 PM by Actaeon

Technically the card is not "discarded" from their hand.  It's "placed in the discard pile".  The wording is very specific.

 

Good catch, thanks!

The Weasel's Way
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Oct 29 2014 03:19 PM by slothgodfather

This answer is going to make everyone mad...

 

I love it.

Flame-Kissed
*****

Oct 29 2014 02:52 PM by slothgodfather

Correct.  The only reason there is usually a conflict is because both effects are trying to make the character moribund at the same time.  In your scenario, only one of them can effect that character and so it is not conflicting and so it doesn't involve the FP to make any decisions.  

The Weasel's Way
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Oct 29 2014 02:48 PM by Bomb

Technically the card is not "discarded" from their hand.  It's "placed in the discard pile".  The wording is very specific.

 

Ser Jorah Mormont and Darkstar won't be avoiding the discard pile based on this specific wording.

 

This answer is going to make everyone mad...

Venomous Blade
*****

Oct 29 2014 02:27 PM by NikolaP

Actually, VB is not played, it entered play, so Scurvy cannot interact with it.

Venomous Blade
*****

Oct 29 2014 01:19 PM by Yoshidude

How would scurvy cutthroat work with this card?

Example: Martell reveals VB and chooses to target Scurvy.  Does scurvy interrupt at the "Then" in VB or does VB completely resolve before he has the option to be discarded to remove the attachment?

The Weasel's Way
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Oct 29 2014 09:26 AM by Actaeon

Actually, it did go to his hand since the effect has to resolve completely before any responses can occur. Unless you use a save/cancel response, the full effect happens and resolves. Then passives occur that are applicable to the effect, then responses can be played to respond to any effect that has resolved. Since the search effect already fully resolved by the time you can play TWW, Ser Jorah is already in your opponent's hand.

Flame-Kissed
*****

Oct 29 2014 09:22 AM by Actaeon

No, discard will happen regardless. When two conflicting effects happen simultaneously, such as in your example where the card would be both discarded and killed, the first playe decides which effect happens first. With conflicting moribund states this means that the first is the one to resolve since the second one can't change the card's moribund destination. However, if the character has 'cannot be killed,' then they cannot under any circumstances enter the moribund: dead state. So there is no conflict of moribund destinations and the character becomes moribund: discard.

Flame-Kissed
*****

Oct 29 2014 04:23 AM by Westah

As long as flame-kissed is attached to the character, at any point that character's STR is reduced to zero they are dead (unless it is caused by Threat from the North (PotS) - this is because this creates a "discard at 0" and a "kill at 0", since both are passives the First Player will decide which takes effect)

Just don't use Flame-kissed before trying to finish them off with The Hatchlings' Feast (ASitD). With that interaction, order does matter

Lets say that i played a flame- kissed on an opponents str 3 char that has cannot be killed, and then i play Threath from the North and my opponent is first player. can he say that the kill effect is the one that takes place and the discard one dosn't happen?

The Weasel's Way
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Oct 29 2014 02:39 AM by oddjob

Very specific yet interesting circumstance came up with this card the other day and neither of us knew the right answer: I was playing this in an experimental deck where you play Summoning Season/Building Season then play Weasel's Way. I had already done this with Building Season, so when I played Summoning my opponent knew it was coming and chose Ser Jorah Mormont (The Kingsguard) to counter me.

 

The question arose, though - is discarding a card that has been revealed the same as discarding it from your hand? I played it upon his immediate reveal, so TECHNICALLY it never went to his hand before I played Weasel's Way. Anyone have any input on this? Is there a certified "revealed position" as opposed to "being in hand"?

Venomous Blade
*****

Oct 28 2014 05:59 PM by slothgodfather

Bah, I've officially hit the limit of things I can keep in my head for this game as i seem to be forgetting things I've already known - and likely explained to someone else already.  Thanks for the clarification Bomb.

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