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Knights of the Hollow Hill
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Yesterday, 10:48 PM by baradeck

How does this work with Feast or Famine? Can you not choose the 6 extra income?

Tarle the Thrice-Drowned
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Yesterday, 10:45 PM by ktom

The discard is terminal, just like a burn effect like "-1 STR and kill at 0." That is, if you did save him, he'd just be discarded again (because the condition that triggers the discard is still true.)

So just like a burn effect, you can only save with an effect that removes him from his terminal estate (i.e., an effect that both saves AND removes a power from him).

Tarle the Thrice-Drowned
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Yesterday, 10:15 PM by baradeck

Once he gets 3 power on him is he be perpetually discarded from play or can you save him from his passive effect?

Shadow Politics
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Yesterday, 08:54 PM by chem2702

You can choose yourself.

He Calls It Thinking
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Yesterday, 04:01 PM by dimithrone

Can the HCIT cancel the response of using the ability of a Title in a Melee combat? For example, can this event card cancel the redirection of a challenge (Crown Regent title)? As I see it, this is also a response triggered by the player who holds the title, right?

Shadow Politics
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Yesterday, 03:37 PM by dimithrone

Another question for the card: Can I choose myself to perfom another intrigue challenge, or it has to be someone else at all costs?

Braavos
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Yesterday, 09:16 AM by slothgodfather

Technically the Lannister house card would not count for common cause because it specifies "character". Also in the example where the player attempting to play Brienne is house stark I'm not convinced that they would receive the reduction on Myr because she is technically in house because she has the Stark affiliation. 

Correct, only characters count, but you can choose what affiliation a multi-house character contributes to that count.

 

Side note: If you are a Stark player, then Brienne is NOT considered out-of-house because she does have a matching house affiliation - so the reduction from Myr would have no effect and only the "lady" reduction from Bravos would have an effect.  

 
A Song of Fire
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Yesterday, 09:08 AM by slothgodfather

Yea, it took me a bit to remember that the effects/abilities of a card are not protected by it's immunity - similar to being able to cancel the effects of a House of Dreams location.   So Lauren is correct that the immunity does not extend to the "it is winter" constant ability and the agenda ensures that it is not winter.

Braavos
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Dec 19 2014 10:17 PM by Redviper187

Technically the Lannister house card would not count for common cause because it specifies "character". Also in the example where the player attempting to play Brienne is house stark I'm not convinced that they would receive the reduction on Myr because she is technically in house because she has the Stark affiliation. 

Fleet from Lys
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Dec 19 2014 08:08 PM by Actaeon

It doesn't come into effect since during set up you are not actually playing cards (I think the terminology is placing them).

Fleet from Lys
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Dec 19 2014 07:40 PM by baradeck

Does the passive effect (lowering of cost) take place during setup? Or is it not applicable?

A Song of Fire
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Dec 19 2014 07:34 PM by LaurenF

1. In AGoT, "cannot" takes precedence over everything. Since the agenda says "it cannot be winter," it can't. End of story.

 

2. Immunities on cards don't extend to those cards' effects. So while you couldn't, for example, discard the White Raven with a non-Raven card, you can make it not be winter with a non-Raven card.

A Song of Fire
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Dec 19 2014 05:29 PM by slothgodfather

So I'm trying to think of a reason why this should work "as intended", but I can't come up with any examples of why.   ktom or bomb, got any answers?

A Song of Fire
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Dec 19 2014 03:45 PM by Pssquadou

I got a question, the agenda says it cannot be winter... But the Raven attachment says Immune to non-Raven card so, If I got the White raven card out it should be winter regardless?

Braavos
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Dec 19 2014 03:14 PM by theamazingmrg

He's not banned anymore.  He's lost all his keywords and his text has been changed to  "Any Phase: Discard 1 Power from your house to give Jaqen H'ghar a keyword of your choice until the end of the phase"

 

He still gets all the house affiliations though.  He still counts a in-house for all houses (except neutral) but you are right that for the purposes of Common Cause and similar effects that he only contributes one house affiliation, and you can choose which.  

 

So for your example: Lannister House Card, Stark character, Brienne and Jaqen would be 4 house affiliations for Common Cause. 

Braavos
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Dec 19 2014 02:06 PM by Emcgugan

Nevermind just saw that that card is banned.. but the same could hold true for a duel character like arrogant contender or something liek that.. Could I choose if i wanted him to be bara or lani depending on what other characters I have out.

Braavos
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Dec 19 2014 02:01 PM by Emcgugan

That is great! Free Brienne!  I was wondering about number of house affiliation for the plot card with the x claim.

 

Common Cause Prized 1. X is equal to the number of different House affiliations among the characters you control. (Each character cannot contribute more than 1 House affiliation to this count.)

 

So if I had Jaquen H´ghar (the one with every house) I could choose him to count for any house I wanted, for example GJ. I understand it is not all 6 houses but can I choose what I want him to be?

Braavos
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Dec 18 2014 05:04 PM by slothgodfather

Assuming you are not playing Stark or Bara, and you have both Myr and Bravos out, you are correct that Brienne is considered "out-of-house" for both effects, so she would be -3 cost (assuming she is the first card matching the listed reduction restrictions).

 

Using the agendas does not make the other cards considered "in house", so you are correct that you ignore the 2 gold penalty applied to that OOH card, and with those 2 locations in play, she would indeed be free.

 

With regards to your next question - I'm not sure what you are trying to get at with house affiliations you control.  Is there some other effect you are getting at when trying to count Jaqen as a Greyjoy character?

 

Side note: If you are a Stark player, then Brienne is NOT considered out-of-house because she does have a matching house affiliation - so the reduction from Myr would have no effect and only the "lady" reduction from Bravos would have an effect.  

Darkstar
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Dec 18 2014 04:54 PM by slothgodfather

Only because terminology matters so much, it is definitely not a "save response".   It is a passive effect that will take effect whenever possible.  Your friends comment is about playing a dupe during the marshalling phase.  That phase is the only time you can "play" characters/attachments/locations anyways.  However, put-into-play is a whole other ballgame and can be done whenever an effect allows.  As Darkstar's effect is not restricted to any particular phase, it works at any time he is discarded from your hand.  In your scenario, he would indeed be put into play and then immediately become a duplicate to the one that is currently in play.  

 

The only 2 times I can readily think of that his ability would not work is if you had Darkstar in your dead pile already (and not in play), then he cannot come into play because of the unique-dead-pile rules.  Also, if a player had the Fear of Winter plot revealed and you had already played your 1 card this turn, then Darkstar's ability would be ignored because you have already reached your 1 card limit and he would be discarded as normal.

Darkstar
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Dec 18 2014 03:26 PM by dimithrone

I just came across this card today with a friendly melee session. I played a Martell deck (a friend's) and I masrhalled into play Darkstar. Then, the question arouse: ''If I had chosen to have Darkstar into play and through a drawing effect I had another copy-duplicate of him in my handin a following phase, and let's suppose I lost an intrigue challenge and the claim was Darkstar, what should happen then? 1) Would the Darkstar from my hand be discarded as an ordinary character or 2) would he be put into play through his triggered effect, as a duplicate? My friend contradicted the latter by saying that ''only in the marshalling phase you can put duplicates into play''. Personally, I think the text is exactly for this reason, to allow you to play Darkstar as a 'save response' from being discarded at any phase of the round. Please enlighten us!

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