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Wildfire Assault
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Yesterday, 04:01 PM by ktom

"Cannot" is absolute. So you are correct, it's not like there is a secret way around "cannot be saved" with duplicates, attachments, etc.

 

Note that something that "cannot be saved" can still be canceled, and vice versa.

Wildfire Assault
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Yesterday, 08:39 AM by melic4
Hi folks,
One little question: "cannot be saved" means, that NOTHING can save a character from been killed: character abilities, attachments, places, events, duplicates?
Salla's Escort Ship
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Dec 01 2016 10:45 PM by ktom

Correct. The card would specifically say, "...choose 2 characters that you control" if you were limited in your target choice. 

Ser Edmure Tully
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Dec 01 2016 10:43 PM by ktom

Yes. This card is removing the character from the challenge - i.e., making it so that they are not considered to be attacking or participating any more. So those characters will not be able to use Deadly, Renown, etc. because they will not be participating when the challenge resolves.

 

The card would say, "Attacking characters with STR 1 or lower do not count their STR during this challenge" (or something similar) if the characters continued to participate, but did not contribute to the total challenge STR.

Salla's Escort Ship
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Dec 01 2016 01:48 PM by melic4
Please correct me, if I'm wrong: I can choose any characters in the play (not only under my control)!
 
p.s: it looks interesting together with "Stannis's Northern Cavalry" (Stannis's Northern Cavalry cannot be killed or discarded from play during a phase in which its STR has been raised or lowered. ) - it will be immortal during the challenge phase.
Ser Edmure Tully
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Dec 01 2016 01:42 PM by melic4
Hi folks,
I need your clarification regarding for "remove all attacking characters with STR 1 or lower from the challenge". Does it mean, that not only STR of the attacking character is removed, but the character in general? 
 
p.s: it's important in the case, if the attacking character with 1 STR has a deathly (and defending character doesn't have deathly) - if the character is removed from the challenge, does it mean, that defender should not kill a participating character as payment for the deathly.
Mole Town Brothel
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Nov 28 2016 03:20 PM by ktom

First Question: No, for two reasons. #1 - Your timing is off. Once you use Mole Town Brothel to stand the defender, you are past the point where you can declare defenders in the challenge. You declare and kneel all of your defenders at the same time. Once you do that, you can use "Action" abilities like this one, but once you do, you cannot go backwards and declare more defender. #2 - The rules say that you add up the STR of all the characters participating on your side to get your total challenge STR. A character is either participating or its not. You can't participate in the same challenge 2 times, so you can't count your STR on the same side twice in the same challenge.

 

Second Question: Once a character is participating in a challenge, it continues to participate until the challenge ends, the character is removed from play, or a card effect specifically removes it from the challenge. Simply standing a character that is participating in a challenge does not remove it - any more than taking the challenge icon away from a character that is already participating would stop it from participating or from counting its STR.

The Stormlands
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Nov 28 2016 03:12 PM by ktom

This card does 2 things:

1) It gives all plots the "Power Struggle" trait.

2) If a plot card has the "Power Struggle" trait printed on the card, it raises the claim value by 1 during Power challenges.

 

You seem to be missing the importance of the word "printed" in the second ability.

- So, if the card does not have "Power Struggle" already, it gains the trait, but THAT'S IT. No rise in claim.

- The only way to get the rise in claim is to reveal a plot card that already has "Power Struggle" written on the card. If there is no ink on the card saying "Power Struggle," there is no way for this card to increase the claim value.

- There is NO WAY for this card to raise claim by 2 because there is no way to have "Power Struggle" inked on the card twice.

Infamous!
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Nov 21 2016 05:39 PM by ktom

No. For a couple of reasons:

 

1. The event can only be played in response to a single "claim power" effect. Resolving claim for winning the challenge is effect #1. Taking the bonus power for winning an unopposed challenge is effect #2. You cannot respond to two effects with a single event. You have to pick one or the other.

 

2. The game mechanic for "claiming" power is when you take power from the power pool and put it on a card in play. The total number of power in play always increases. But when you resolve the "claim" effect for a power challenge, you actually MOVE power from your opponent's House card to your own - the total number of power in play stays the same, it is just redistributed. So winning a power challenge does not create the required "After a player claims 1 or more power for his or her House..." effect that is required in order to play Infamous!

 

(Note that the difference between "claiming" and "moving" power is the reason one player cannot use Infamous! against an opponent's Infamous!.)

 

So, in the situation you describe, this event can only be played in response to claiming the bonus power, not the claim effect, for winning an unopposed challenge, meaning that the Infamous! player will only get one power.

Mole Town Brothel
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Nov 21 2016 03:18 PM by melic4

As for this location, can one character be used twice in one challenge as the defender, and will it be count as STR of this character * 2 ?. Let me explain (I put my character as defender -> use this location "Kneel 1 influence to choose and stand 1 defending character" -> put this character again into the challenge)

 

Second question: if I put the character into the challenge as the defender, and after stand this character during the challenge - will his STR still count as the total STR in the defends? or after standing that character - this character removes from the TOTAL STR in defence?

The Stormlands
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Nov 21 2016 03:09 PM by melic4

Guys, does this location mean, that each my plot card has Power Struggle trait -> and as result, each my power challenge has +1 claim value?

 

Second question, if my plot card already has Power Struggle -> does it mean, that this location doesn't give me one more Power Struggle (I'm asking, because it would be great, to have +2 claim value, but it looks strange for only two golds).

Infamous!
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Nov 17 2016 02:02 PM by melic4

The easiest way to be clear on how this card works is that any amount of power a player takes from the power pool (the game board if you will) due to one effect (event, agenda, etc) this card will catch it.

Could you please clarify, if I win a power challenge, which was unopposed, I'm going to take two power (one power, as part of the power challenge, from the losing opponent, and one more power for the unopposed challenge from the power pool). Does it mean, that after playing "Infamous!" event, both these power will be stolen? 

Ser Gregor's Band
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Nov 15 2016 03:44 PM by ktom

This card has nothing to do with affiliation. Forget about Stark, Lannister, etc. when counting its STR.

 

This card gets +1 STR for each character, location or attachment in play that has a power counter on it. It doesn't matter whether that card is Lannister, Greyjoy, neutral, or whatever.

Ser Gregor's Band
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Nov 14 2016 05:30 PM by melic4

"Non-House" here refers to your actual House card (the one you put your agenda on), not to a House affiliation. So this guy gets +1 STR for each character, location and attachment with power on it, no matter what the card's affiliation is.

Could you please explaine with an example. We are playing in 2 people. I'm Lanister. Second player (Stark deck) has two character in play: one is stark, and one is non-stark. Both caracters have power on it.
Should I got any +STR on Ser Gregor's Band?
Daenerys Targaryen
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Nov 08 2016 08:22 PM by ktom

Blood of the Dragon only grants the "Dragon" trait (not keyword; keywords are completely different) to a character that is participating in a challenge. A character is not participating as an attacker until after they are declared. So if you put Blood of the Dragon on Dany, she won't gain the Dragon trait until after she's already declared as an attacker - by which time it is too late to apply the "does not kneel to attack" text.

 

It's like trying to say you'll pay the cover charge after you get the $10 your friend who is already inside owes you.

Horseback Archers
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Nov 08 2016 08:18 PM by ktom

Under the control of another player? No. There is nothing in the text of the Archers (or in Greatjon Umber for that matter) that changes the control of the character. The Archers always come into play under your control.

 

That said, there is no rule that says the attacking player has to control a character for it to count its STR as an attacking character. So long as it is participating as an attacker, it counts its STR toward the total attacking challenge STR for the attacking player, no matter who controls it. So you can use the Archers to help another player attack or defend - but they do not take control of your character if you do.

Cersei Lannister
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Nov 08 2016 08:14 PM by ktom

Her ability is a Response to winning the challenge. Responses are not triggered until after the winner is determined, claim is resolved, unopposed power is awarded, and Renown, Deadly and any other passive abilities are resolved. So, since Deadly is resolved before Cersei's Response triggers, she would gain Deadly too late for it to be used in that challenge.

Jojen Reed
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Nov 08 2016 08:12 PM by ktom

The effect says to "discard the top 3 cards of a player's deck." There are no restrictions other than "player." So you name a card (by title), then discard 3 cards from any one player's deck (including yourself). There are no hidden restrictions in the text.

Daenerys Targaryen
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Nov 08 2016 02:13 PM by melic4

Guys, if Daenerys has attachment "Blood of the Dragon" (While participating in a challenge, attached character gets +6 STR and gains the Dragon trait.) - what is the order of the actions? Should I firstly kneel Dany, and only after is she has "Dragon" keyword? Or I can attack without kneeling Dany?

Horseback Archers
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Nov 08 2016 02:10 PM by melic4

Guys, can I play "Horseback Archers" from my hand as attacker OR defender, but under control of another player (by the analogy with "Greatjon Umber": Kneel Greatjon Umber to have him participate in the current Military or Power challenge as either the attacker or as the defender)

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