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Betrayal at the Wall
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Feb 08 2018 09:57 PM by Verro

Jon is still only a single character, regardless of how many traits he has so he can only account for 1 character.

I'm pretty sure that the card is functionally read as "2 or more wildlings or 2 or more Night's watch..."

Does it mean that's not possible to have 2 characters, 1 wildling and 1 night's watch?

Pentos
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Feb 02 2018 09:57 PM by Actaeon

Hang on, I forgot that there are two Catelyns that enter play from the hand, so I was jumbling things up a bit. I'll try to explain one more time:

 

Catelyn (core) enters play as a response. If this response is canceled she returns to the hand and the response can be triggered again in the same response window.

 

Catelyn (LoW) enters play as an action. If the action is canceled, she can be put into play as the Stark players next Action, not during the response window used to cancel her entry. Sorry if I made this unclear.

Pentos
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Feb 02 2018 09:51 PM by Actaeon

Do I understand correctly (regarding Catelyn), that it's not possible to cancel here appearence in challange, because it can be triggered right after cancelation?

 

Technically you can cancel it, but they can activate the effect again as their next action so in general there's no point in doing so. There are some very limited reason you might want to, though. The other players have a chance to use actions before the Stark player could use an action to bring Catelyn back in, so if you also had some way to discard cards from the Stark player's hand it might be worth it to send Catelyn back to the hand and then try to discard her before she can enter play, especially if she was the only card in hand.

 

Also, Drogo (core) enters play from the hand as a response, so you could use He Calls it Thinking (PotS) to cancel the effect and then give a character 2 STR if you really needed to bump a character to save it from being burned. Otherwise it is generally useless to cancel effects triggered from out of play since they can be activated again immediately.

Pentos
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Jan 25 2018 08:52 PM by melic4
Do I understand correctly (regarding Catelyn), that it's not possible to cancel here appearence in challange, because it can be triggered right after cancelation?
Dragon Egg
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Jan 24 2018 07:55 PM by Actaeon

 

Hi folks,
 
Could you please clarify, if it's common case to attache Dragon Egg directly to the attachment. I've never faced such behavior befor, so I was a little bit confused, if attachment can be attached to the attachment.

 

 

Normally attachments can only be attached to characters. However, attachments can expand or narrow the list of cards they can attach to through their own text, like this one. Since it says "attach to a card controlled by an opponent" it can be attached to an attachment, a location, a character, or even an event card (although there are only a few ways event cards can be in play - like through the effect of Doran's Game (GotC) - and it wouldn't be of any use to pick an event card anyway).

 

Putting Dragon Egg on an opponent's attachment is pretty common, actually, since Targaryens have a lot of great attachments and giving them all Ambush makes them even better. It works particularly well with cost 0 attachments like Bloody Arakh (TBiC), Daenerys' Favor (FF), Dragon Bite (AE), and Dragon Fear (QoD).

Pentos
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Jan 24 2018 07:43 PM by Actaeon

What about the case, when I have a character with two attachments. My character should be killed and I play the response (discard first attachment from play to save attached character from been killed). My opponent cancels this resposen.

 

My questions: can I play this response one more time to discard second attachment and save attached character?

 

Responses can only be used once per opportunity per card. Otherwise, if a card let you claim 1 power as a response, you could use the response 15 times and instantly win. If you have two identical cards with a response, each one can be triggered once since they are separate cards.

 

The only exception to this rule is for cards that leave the play area (people commonly say that cards 'remember' activating while in play but 'don't remember' while out of play). Jumping Catelyn enters play from your hand through her abaility, but if the effect is canceled she returns to your hand. Since cards in your your hand are not in play and don't 'remember' if their effects have been activated or not, you can use Catelyn's effect again in the same response window.

Dragon Egg
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Jan 24 2018 01:28 PM by melic4
Hi folks,
 
Could you please clarify, if it's common case to attache Dragon Egg directly to the attachment. I've never faced such behavior befor, so I was a little bit confused, if attachment can be attached to the attachment.
Pentos
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Jan 24 2018 01:21 PM by melic4

What about the case, when I have a character with two attachments. My character should be killed and I play the response (discard first attachment from play to save attached character from been killed). My opponent cancels this resposen.

 

My questions: can I play this response one more time to discard second attachment and save attached character?

House Umber Berserkers
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Jan 04 2018 01:36 PM by Hartnetto

Does the effect of this card works when one of the players in melee game don't have any characters?

Rule by Decree
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Dec 14 2017 04:25 PM by FedericoFasullo

yes, it's an open information

Rule by Decree
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Dec 13 2017 11:15 AM by Hartnetto

Hihi guys,

Must the opponent say how many cards does he(she) has in his(her) hand anytime I ask for it? (especially before I decide to play this plot)

Valar Morghulis
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Nov 30 2017 01:56 PM by Hartnetto

Hi guys,

Have a question for playing 2 plots of Morghulis by 2 players and how it will affect the situation:

Player 1 have a character with a duplicate. Player 2 has 1 character but he has a option to save character ones by location or attachment and he will use it to save his char after first Morghulis. Will the characters die on both sides? And it would be clear table for both players? 

Good for the Gander
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Nov 30 2017 01:47 PM by melic4
Hi folks,
 
I have some doubts about this plot and how it works. For example, "Valar Morghulis" was revealed with this plot. User copies effect of the "Valar" plot (kill all characters in play). My question: if I have a character with duplicate, should I discard duplicate to save a character from first Valar, and kill character as part of the copied Valar?
 
Or it's the same acction, and one character can not be killed during the plot face twice, and I should only discard a duplicate?
Doran's Favor
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Nov 12 2017 12:36 AM by Verro

Thank you very much Actaeon.

Doran's Favor
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Nov 10 2017 04:40 PM by Actaeon

You are correct, Vendor of Venoms with 2 power would not be discarded if you knelt an attached Doran's Favor. "Cannot" is absolute in aGoT LCG, so any time a card says that something cannot happen, that is the rule. The only way to get around an effect like "Cannot be discarded" is to blank the text of that card that gives it the immunity.

To address the additional point you brought up, immunity effects and save effects are not the same, so a card that is immune to discard ignores all the text about discarding it, even if that text normally precludes saving it.

Doran's Favor
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Nov 08 2017 10:30 AM by Verro

Hi all, hope someone still follow the discussions for AGOT LCG 1E.

Is Vendor of Venom working with Doran's Favor? I mean, if it has 2 power points of it, and since discarding is not a cost but an effect, could it avoid to be discharged even if the card says "(cannot be saved)"? I guess that immunity to discard effect is not a save effect, but I would be sure.

Knights of the Hollow Hill
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Oct 04 2017 03:36 AM by PIlger123

I need a copy of the "House of Dreams' and "knights of the hollow hill", but I'm from Brazil and I can not buy them here. Can anybody help me?

Orkmont Port
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Oct 02 2017 03:35 PM by dayvisson3008
A very underestimated location. In the right deck, one of those in play will make your opponent crazy. Play two and your GJ deck becomes even faster than Bara.
Kettledrum
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Sep 15 2017 04:44 PM by dayvisson3008
Maybe the best Greyjoy attachment. Too bad it came too late.
Lysa Arryn
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Sep 14 2017 09:23 PM by Actaeon

i don´t understand, cancel plots?

To clarify, Lysa Arryn does not necessarily cancel plots, it actually works on triggered effects that include the word "plot" or "non-plot" (although technically plot is already included in non-plot, so it's kind of redundant).

 

So what exactly does that mean? Well a triggered effect is any effect that starts with Bold Words before the text, and the bold words will either be the name of a phase (like as Plot or Challenges), Any Phase, or Response. It is also important to note that each paragraph on a card is a separate effect, so only a card which has a paragraph starting with a bold word and which includes the word "plot" in that specific paragraph is eligible to be canceled by Lysa Arryn.

 

A few examples:

 

Meera Reed (TftH) has two triggered effects on her card, one which puts her into shadows and one that takes her out of shadows. The effect that brings her out of shadows also allows her to blank 1 or 2 non-plot cards, so this effect CAN be canceled by Lysa Arryn. The effect that puts her into shadows does not include the words "plot" or "non-plot" so that effect CANNOT be canceled by Lysa Arryn.

 

Outwit (TIoR) has a response that cancels a plot effect. Lysa Arryn CAN cancel this effect because it uses the word "plot" (this is also the only Plot she can cancel since it is the only plot with a triggered effect using the word "plot", as well as the only plot with a triggered effect at all as best as I can remember).

 

The Eyrie (ADG) has the keyword "Immune to plot card effects" and has a triggered effect, but Lysa Arryn CANNOT cancel this effect because even though the word "plot" is on the card, it is not written in the triggered effect.

 

That might be a bit of over-explanation, but I hope it clears everything up.

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