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Pyromancer's Cache



Pyromancer's Cache

Pyromancer's Cache



Type: Attachment House: Lannister
Cost:1
Game Text:
Restricted
Siege.
Attach to a location you control. Kneel that location. Marshalling: Kneel Pyromancer's Cache to draw a card (2 cards if you control a King or Queen character).
Flavor Text: The pyromancers said only three things burned hotter than their substance...
Number: 13 Set: TWot5K
Quantity: 3 Illustrator: Jonny Klein
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13 Comments

Can I attach this to an already kneeled location?
yes, you couldn't attach it if the kneeling was a cost (for example kneel a location to attach it), or if the kneeling part was before a then (for example Kneel a location, then attach to the location).
I had to be sure. "Attach to a location you control" is a restriction for PC to come to play, so the subsequent "Kneel that location" could be a restriction too. Thanks for your answer.
Does the attached location stand during the standing phase?
Yes, as the kneeling is an effect from the attachment being played, If the location couldn't stand, it would be an additional effect listed.
Is the 'Attach to a location you control', really only a play restriction? What happens when the control of the location it is attached to changes? Is PC then discarded?
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slothgodfather
Aug 12 2013 06:19 AM
I am pretty sure it is not just a play restriction. Attachments can only be attached to locations if they have text allowing it. The Cache has the added notation that it must be a location you control. So, if an opponent takes control of your location that has a Cache attached to it - it is no longer a location you control and it would fall off (discard) immediately. That is my take on it anyways.
That is what I thought as well, but my opponent was so kind (I was playing Lanni) to leave the attachment on when he 'supported the kingdom' the goldroad it was attached too.

I'm almost positive that once you take control of a character/location that all the attachments are removed.

 

Found the ruling.

 

(3.27) Taking Control of

a Card With Attachments

Any time control of a card switches via a card

effect during a game, the new controlling

player gains control of said card and all

duplicates.

Unless specified in game text, the new

controlling player does not gain control of any

attachments on said character.

I'm almost positive that once you take control of a character/location that all the attachments are removed.

 

Found the ruling.

 

(3.27) Taking Control of

a Card With Attachments

Any time control of a card switches via a card

effect during a game, the new controlling

player gains control of said card and all

duplicates.

Unless specified in game text, the new

controlling player does not gain control of any

attachments on said character.

 

Don't think so. The ruling just says, that the owner of the attachments stays the controller of them. No word about discarding. If you take controll of a card with attachments the controller of the attachments still has the controll.

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So your opponent would have control of the location and you would have control of the attachment. Could you still tap it to gain the draw during marshalling?

I'm honestly not trying to fish but this just doesn't seem correct.

 

(3.22) Attachment Restrictions

Any attachment that has a restriction (such

as "Lord or Lady only" or "attach to an

opponent's character") is immediately

discarded from play at any time that restriction

is not met, regardless of immunity. Such

restrictions are constant effects, and the

attachment should be immediately discarded

any time a restriction is not met including

during setup.

 

 

The card specifically states that it must attach to a location that "you control".

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theamazingmrg
Jun 22 2014 08:10 AM

Yes, the 3.22 ruling means that the attachment will leave play once the location changes hands.  But Teh Pippin was correct that the 3.27 ruling doesn't indicate that.

 

Personally I don't think the 3.22 ruling makes sense,  If it said "can only be attached to a location you control," then fair enough.  "Attach to a location you control" reads like a restriction on where the card can be played, not a constant effect, but FFG have spoken so unfortunately Pyromancers Cache does leave play if your opponent gains control of the location it attaches to.

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