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Ser Barristan Selmy

Submitted Darksbane , Oct 06 2011 02:03 AM | Last updated Oct 22 2011 07:45 PM

Ser Barristan Selmy

Type: Character House: Targaryen
Cost: 4 Strength: 3 Icons: Military, Power
Game Text:
Knight. Queensguard.
Renown.
Challenges: While Ser Barristan Selmy is participating in a challenge, discard a card form your hand to choose 1 participating character. Until the end of the phase, that character gets -2 STR and is killed if its STR is 0.
Number: 10 Set: TftH
Quantity: 3 Illustrator: John Matson

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36 Comments

Darksbane

Oct 07 2011 03:44 PM

Wow, this card is extremely good. Especially with the Renown to make it really hurt if you let him go unopposed for fear of his ability. Burn decks get a huge boost with him.

I even think that using him out of house say in a Baratheon Knight deck to get cards in the discard pile for See who is Stronger (KotStorm) and perhaps throwing on a Hunting Spear (BoRF). Sending him and Robert Baratheon (Core) into a challenge is going to make your opponent have to make some very tough choices.

SpiderMonkey

Oct 07 2011 05:36 PM

I think I am already in love with this card

- jackmerridew likes this

Laxen

Oct 08 2011 10:04 AM

YES!

I was afraid there was going to be a limit to how many times the ability could be used before we had a picture to it. But this confirms it. I love this card too.

berto

Oct 08 2011 05:29 PM

Anyway would you like to lose 3 cards to kill STR 5 char? At the beginning I was very happy seeing this card but now I don't know. Cost of a card is quite big assuming that we can use instead
Flame-Kissed (Core) which will be re-used next time. This is card lost and we have only
Ambush from the Plains (QoD) to get it back. Draw is not so easy in Targ and this guy may cause more troubles than we get from him. For me is for usre not 5, maybe something between 3-4.

Enrico

Oct 08 2011 09:20 PM

I think it's great. We can discard attachments and then recover them with Lady Daenerys's Chambers (Core), or we can simply use it to get rid of cards we can't allow us to use in a certain moment, such as an expensive army or Daario Naharis (WLL).

Darksbane

Oct 09 2011 01:16 AM

You can also use it with Pentoshi Guildmaster (Core) who can come back to your hand from the discard.

berto

Oct 09 2011 11:19 AM

Easy guys. i know that there are many possibilities to find a reason for discarding card. But discarded card is not in our hand which means we have less options to play which means we have disadvantage comparing to our opponent. I'm not saying that this card is piece of **** as Daario Naharis (WLL). But for sure is not 5. Ability can be useful but must be used carefully as actually can cause more backfire for us.

Vincu

Oct 09 2011 02:12 PM

The reason to have cards in hand is to eliminate your opponents char, or to make sure your plans work. If i can kill a char and by that win a challenge it means that i used a card efficiently, and i dont have to use in another way. Discarding a card is a disadvantage in itself, but discarding a card for an effect that helps you win is an advantage out of the question.

playgroundpsychotic

Oct 09 2011 02:14 PM

Burn has always been card intensive. If you ever wanted to burn anything of note you usually needed 2-3 cards to set up the combo. Selmy is a 5 star character using a 2 star strategy. He actually makes burning high strength targets somewhat more feasible since you do not need specific cards to set up the combo unlike in the past. At least, he'll put some fear in the competition. I think he'll win a number unopposed challenges or your opponent will overcommit to save his characters.

My only concern is that Targ is being herded into running Maester builds. We've seen two highly effective cards but they need links to keep gameplay efficient. Selmy is much more straightforward to use with Bronze Link (FtC) , Valyrian Steel Link (HtS) and/or Lead Link (CbtC). Similarily, Daario Naharis (WLL) is brutal if you have a Copper Link (GotC).

berto

Oct 09 2011 04:12 PM

We need to have combo having him paticipating in a challange. Additionally our opponent can take into account what can happen and react accordingly. I mean his not bad but on his own he does nothing. We can treat him as blank and all our cards in hand with abilities when played add -2 STR and kill if 0. I agree that we generally need a combination of Flame-Kissed (Core) and Forever Burning (Core) but both could be easily taken back and reused. With this card they are gone.

playgroundpsychotic

Oct 09 2011 04:52 PM

Any attachment can fuel Selmy and be resued with Lady Daenerys's Chambers (Core) or Bronze Link (FtC). Any card can be recycled with Street Waif (AToT).

- MasonThornberg likes this

Arrdet

Oct 09 2011 09:14 PM

This guy has been crafted from the purest win. I can't imagine anyone who runs a burn deck not having a little dance around the room when this guy comes out. If you can get stealth on him then he becomes a formidable deterrent. With so much recursion available to Targ not even counting using stuff like Lost Captains or Guildmasters discarding a card is a minimal penalty.

Enrico

Oct 10 2011 08:05 AM

Also, you can fuel him with Magister Illyrio (CbtC), and you would never run out of cards to discard.

Laxen

Oct 10 2011 08:11 AM

berto: It doesn't really matter if your opponent can calculate on how you can use him. If Selmy is standing for defence, your opponent can calculate all he want and then realise that it's not worth making military nor power challenges with characters that he wish to keep. And that is quite an advantage.

Arrdet

Oct 10 2011 12:11 PM

The threat of his presence is as useful, maybe even more useful, than his actual kill ability. If someone skips there challenges for fear of losing a character or characters they wish to keep around then you don't even have to discard a single card to maintain your position.

- jackmerridew, MasonThornberg and berto like this

dune00z

Oct 13 2011 02:31 AM

Wow, this is an incredible card. Considering how targ can consistently recycle their discard pile, this card is very powerful and the drawback of losing a card isnt that severe.

tehflash

Oct 21 2011 08:19 PM

FFG posted a whole article on this card enumerating the possibilities.

Twn2dn

Oct 24 2011 12:14 AM

I have to agree with everyone who says this card is fantastic. In most games, I'm guessing the Targ player will not get to trigger the ability. But that will be because the opponent is letting through unopposed challenges are avoiding attacking (or only attacking with stealth). I think this guy is incredible...definitely a threat that makes the opponent strongly consider Valar.

sWhiteboy

Oct 24 2011 08:07 PM

This card is great for Targ burn or even just Targ in general. Think of it like this: You have a Flame-Kissed in your hand and a Ser Barristan Selmy in play. You can either play 2 gold and use the Flame-Kissed during the Marshalling Phase OR you can hold it and use it for free during the Challenge phase. In case something goes wrong, you still have the option of playing the Flame-Kissed via Ambush too.

The thought that you might have a Flame-Kissed in your hand can keep the opponents from attacking you, but the knowledege that you do have a Ser Barristan Selmy on the field will keep them from attacking you.

Any card that increases your options in a meaningful way (especially one that decreases your gold cost) is a useful card.

berto

Oct 24 2011 08:30 PM

I think he's really overrated. Every -2 we get from him cost1 card from hand. At the end we have less option to play. I know that your argumentation goes in direction it's better to have him and then possible -2 than Flamed kiss. But imagine that you have 6 Flamed Kiss on hand, Do we really want this ? He's good support for burn but he does not made burn winning deck. We can end in situation that we don't want to discard two cards to use his ability.

Arrdet

Oct 24 2011 09:48 PM

He is not overrated. I can often get back most if not all of the cards I dump to trigger in the next marshaling phase so the problem of losing card advantage is small to non-existent. His very presence on the board means that you probably wont need to dump cards because they aren't attacking if he can defend or they are giving up unopposed challenges. I have never used his ability more than once against a single opponent, as soon as they know you can an will feed him cards and that you can get those same cards back easily next turn they don't usually attack when he can block and don't usually block when he attacks.

This guy both rocks and rolls.

sWhiteboy

Oct 25 2011 02:25 AM

I agree that is isn't a 5-star card, but I do think he is a 4-star card. He won't win the game for you, but he can help you not-lose.

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berto

Oct 25 2011 06:59 AM

Exactly, that's what i want to stress. He is solid but not 5 stars on his own he is blank, card recycling is situational, if you have lots of attachements yes but you can as well have some good events and characters what you discard in this case. This unopposed is as well overrated, I don't care if I loose character for 2 cards, want to kill another one please give me two additional cards, empty hand ? I'm really sorry.

Laxen

Oct 25 2011 08:10 AM

4.5 then. But the error in your calculation berto seems to be as you see it as "6 Flamed Kiss on hand", making it a more limited hand. You seem to forget that the cards can still be used as what they are, and still pose the threat and have the possibilities that a (or 6) free flamekissed does. - It gives more options, not less.

doulos2k

Apr 05 2012 04:52 PM

In my (limited) experience, this guy makes a big psychological difference in every challenge, especially if you've positioned yourself as second player (which I usually try to do when running burn). My opponents really work hard to determine what they should do when attempting a military or power challenge with him on the field. In my last game, my opponent actually skipped some challenges because he would be required to kneel multiple characters in order to win and was almost guaranteed to lose one of them, then I also won a few unopposed for the same reason. Now, granted, I'm also running a series of burn attachments and with Dragonpit, I had all of his characters at -1 already (so even his 3 STR characters were now vulnerable to Selmy) and had killed multiple characters by the time Selmy came on the field, but he has become an auto-include for me in Burn for the psychological factor alone.

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