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Daario Naharis

Submitted Darksbane , Oct 04 2011 09:33 PM | Last updated Jun 22 2012 03:39 PM

Daario Naharis

Type: Character House: Targaryen
Cost: 3 Strength: 2 Icons: Military,Intrigue, Power
Game Text:
Mercenary. Traitor.
Melee.
After Daario Naharis comes into play, choose and discard 1 Knight or Traitor character from play.
Flavor Text: "My sword is yours. My life is yours. My love is yours. My blood, my body, my songs, you own them all. I live and die at your command, fair queen."
Crest: War
Number: 73 Set: WLL
Quantity: 3 Illustrator: Kristina Carrol

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20 Comments

berto

Oct 05 2011 07:25 AM

He would be perfectly without traitor treat or response instead of passive ability. Unfortunately to work he needs traitor or knight on opponent side or Copper Link (GotC) on maester or any other treat assignment like for example Rhaegar's Harp (BoRF). He's too conditional to be reliable and playing 3 gold to get him discarded and ready for use of Ambush from the Plains (QoD) is much too expensive. It's a pity that passive ability eliminates him from playing.

playgroundpsychotic

Oct 05 2011 03:57 PM

I think you're overstating his disadvantage. Most other houses will likely receive a number of new Knights and card support for them. Targ on the other hand will not (new Selmy for sure, maybe a new Jorah). Daario shifts some power back to them. Further, being able to discard a Knight by itself is very powerful, its not meant to be a detrimental trait like Ally. Why would you even bother playing him if you didn't have an acceptable target?

Finally, Ambush from the Plains (QoD) and To Be a Dragon (SB) make him much more dangerous. Getting an Initiative of 4 or greater isn't much of a stretch. I'll concede the point if Targ receives more War Crest support and you may wish to use The Power of Arms (Core). Until then, it likely won't be an issue.

Laxen

Oct 05 2011 04:11 PM

I'll probably play a one-off to try him out. Discarding characters is always great and Knights aren't that uncommon. I will probably play him along with Nightmares as well to be able to get rid of Beric

zordren

Oct 05 2011 08:09 PM

His abilities/stats seem "ok" maybe, but I just can't past the horrible artistic portrayal of him in this pic. Daario is kind of a bad-ass in the books, but I think in this portrait he kind of looks like some goofy grown up dressed up in a cheesy pirate costume for a halloween party... Core Set Daario's art (and stats) is MUCH better IMHO.

berto

Oct 06 2011 07:21 AM

No, his ability does not seem ok. We have in game currently 11 Traitors and 56 Knights. One is traitor and Knight so together we have 66 potential targets. comparing to Ally treat where we have 130. Ally has twice so many targets as this card. In this 66 card 20 cards come from Bara, 10 Lanni, 12 neutrals. So it will work usually only against Bara and sometimes Lanni. So this card will be very good meta against 5-7 % of matchups. In rest it will be in your hand as vanilia card. if this pasive ability would be a response or will be removed than tis card will be playable but at this stage is fillout for chapter.

Enrico

Oct 06 2011 09:37 AM

Yes, but you forget that this new expansion is knight-focused. I mean... I've just counted 61 knight cards... the number seems to be growing at a very nice rate. Daario will have plenty of friends to discard.

berto

Oct 06 2011 10:40 AM

Even if it grows a little it doesn't change a fact that two houses are playing with knights. so we have 33 % then assuming that each house can build 3 different deck type we end in with 11 %. You will be happy to use him every second tournament in one game? Having in remaining 9 games him in hand as a dead card. You don't understand that this card must have knight on opponents side to justify its place in deck. It's not like for many other hate trait card if opponent have nothing that's ok I can still play this character just forgeting about ability. In Daario we can't forget about ability and treat him as normal blank character.

Laxen

Oct 06 2011 11:42 AM

We'll see. But I'm not giving up hope on him yet. And your math is a bit off since there are several knights that are played outside knights decks, especially for houses that uses a lot of knights, like Bara, but also in other houses like Jorah, Blackfish etc. He'll probably be better in melee then in joust though without trait manipulation.

berto

Oct 06 2011 12:20 PM

In melee I agree because you have more chance to play it having 3 opponents. Even if it will be 1/3 in melee still not sure if he is worth having so many good characters we don't need to rely on him an prey to have good matchup.

playgroundpsychotic

Oct 06 2011 01:52 PM

You're underestimating the number of Knights you'll see in play. Stark and Martell both use Knights. Stark may or may not have them although its safe to assume you'll see a couple. Martell may not have alot of Knights but two of them are widely used (Darkstar,Arys).

Further, the game isn't changing a little, its adding 175 cards over the next few months with a heavy Knight theme. There will be more Knights added. It may even reinvigourate the Kingsguard and Brotherhood neutral themes. There might be more Ally's but there is no Ally synergy. Knights on the other hand already have multiple support cards. Even if you can use him less often, his effect is much more pronounced when you do.

SpiderMonkey

Oct 06 2011 06:57 PM

Another point to make is that knights are generally pretty freaking awesome. There are cool allies as well, but they have enough hate as it is. Most decks have at least one really good knight in them (Blackfish, Jaime, Knight of Flowers, Darkstar, and Oakheart cover most of the houses). The only houses with no common knights are Targ (which is trying to get rid of them with Daario) and Greyjoy. Add in some trait manipulation and the odds increase. Is this card going to be amazing? Well no, but I don't think it should be avoided like Renly Baratheon (TRS).

fleabottomfinedining

Nov 18 2011 02:27 AM

I've never been fond of effects that freebie pop characters, regardless of cost. It's either too good (because you screw an opponent's probably more expensive or power-laden knight AND get a solid character into play OR he's useless because your opponent has no knights or traitors in his/her deck)

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Enrico

Nov 18 2011 03:36 PM

There's a chain attachment for that, so in a Targ/maester deck it would be nice... and you can always use Old Nan if you're running a dragon deck and you don't mind paying 4 gold for her.

fleabottomfinedining

Nov 18 2011 07:04 PM

@Enrico - just because he can screw _any_ character if his owner has some trait control doesn't change how I feel about those types of card effects

berto

Nov 23 2011 08:41 AM

Using treat manipulation you can make this card better but it still requires combo to work and you need to waste slots for cards to support this unique character. Do you think it is really worth? I know that you can make any character playable with smaller or bigger effort. This card on it's own gives you nothing if opponent has no knights and even it's not blank character which you can use in challenges like Ser Arys Oakheart (PotS) if there is no ally on the table.

Laxen

Nov 25 2011 10:56 AM

Well, the Trait Chain isn't very hard to find a slot for in a Maester.dec because it basically isn't a slot and is also very reliable, and if you want to play trait manipulation in any other way, there is always other reliable things like The Songs of Bael the Bard (AKitN) etc. If NOT playing trait manipultions, 1x might come handy in decks anyway depending on the meta you're in, especially in Melee.

AceManUSC

Jun 22 2012 03:11 PM

He needs to have his text fixed. It says trator when it should be Traitor. I was looking for things that affect the Traitor trait and I knew he was one of them, but he didn't come up since his text has a typo.

Darksbane

Jun 22 2012 03:43 PM

Should be fixed Aceman, just searched through the cards, and caught a few more where I spelled it wrong.

TheAvenger154

Jun 22 2012 05:01 PM

He will be gettin lots of love in Targaryen Maester decks. I for one, always run the Copper Link because I find it one of the most usefull chains. Trait manipulation is a win-win situation no matter what (Really like to make the Tin Link a raven, so I can just discard Ravens).

Anyway, in a maester deck with the Maester agenda where it's pretty easy to chose and get the Copper Link, I think this card is very reliable.

In simple words, it means that when you play your 3 gold 2strength tricon with melee you also get to pick an enemy character and kill him. I am running a Maester-Burn deck and he looks pretty damn usefull.

jackmerridew

Jun 22 2012 08:30 PM

God i hate Maesters

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Daario Naharis

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