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Satin

Submitted Darksbane , Jan 05 2012 04:58 PM | Last updated Jan 06 2012 03:59 AM

Satin

Type: Character House: Neutral
Cost: 2 Strength: 1 Icons: Military,Intrigue
Game Text:
Night's Watch.
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Marshalling: Kneel a Night's Watch character to reveal the top card of each player's deck. Then (choose one): each player discards that card, draws that card, or returns it to the top of his or her deck.
Flavor Text: Satin, they called him, even in the wool and mail and boiled leather of the Night's Watch.
Number: 79 Set: WLL
Quantity: 3 Illustrator: Maricia Geroge-Bogdan

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9 Comments

Wombate

Jan 11 2013 07:57 AM

My opponent already drew 3 cards this round, then I use Satin's ability & choose that each player draw a card. What would be with his card?

emptyrepublic

Jan 11 2013 08:11 AM

This is a good question cause the first part of the text suggests it's a reveal, but the second part has the word 'draw'. Since you have to choose the effect if you choose draw for everyone else I'm not sure what the player with the draw cap would do. This maybe worth asking ktom on the Fantasy Flight forums.

WWDrakey

Jan 11 2013 11:59 AM

I'm pretty sure that if it says draw, then it counts towards your draw cap.

This is somewhat similar actually to what happens with Godswood Attendant (KotS). Even though you are looking at the top card of a players deck, it's still very much the top card of that deck... it's state or location has in no other way changed, it's just visible. Because of this the Attendant can actually be used together with Corpse Lake (TBC).

Think of it this way: Does Noyne (THoBaW) stop the top card of your deck being the top card of your deck? Does it make all of your draw effects somehow skip the draw cap? I'm pretty sure the answers there are "no".

I guess the most obvious other card that does the exact same thing is Val (RotO), and she definately counts towards the draw cap.

Lesson learned? It's not the "reveal" part of The Viper's Bannermen (PotS) that makes it skip the draw cap, it's the fact that it says "put into your hand" instead of "draw".

EDIT: So, as an answer to the original question, if a player is draw-capped, I think that the player who is draw capped just skips the draw and thus the card remains on the top of their deck.

ShadowcatX2000

Jan 11 2013 02:28 PM

Drakey is, of course, correct.

Wombate

Jan 11 2013 03:23 PM

Thx for answer =)

Frappy90

Sep 06 2013 12:40 PM

Can you trigger this character ability by kneel someone elses nights watch character?

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Golladan

Sep 06 2013 12:56 PM

No. Kneeling a NW char is a cost. Do X to do Y. You can only pay costs with your cards.

DoctorJay

Sep 30 2013 01:18 PM

Can we combine him with laughing storm?

slothgodfather

Sep 30 2013 02:29 PM

Actually, after reading the ability again, you are revealing the card and then decided what to do with it (draw, discard, return). Since "draw" is one of the options you clearly haven't added it to your hand yet. So the "discard" option is actually discarding the top card of the deck, not from hand, so TLS has no interaction with this.

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