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Westeros Bleeds


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Westeros Bleeds

Westeros Bleeds



Type: Event House: Neutral
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Game Text:

Dominance: Kneel 4 influence to discard all characters from play.
Flavor Text: When the old king was still alive, he'd not have stood for this. "King Robert?" Arya asked, forgetting herself. "King Aerys, gods grace him," the old man said.
Number: 176 Set: Core
Quantity: 1 Illustrator: Thomas Denmark
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13 Comments

Now restricted.

is this an event

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theamazingmrg
Jun 25 2014 04:28 PM
Yes. All events have the same background with the birds down the left hand-side. If you have Jon Snow in play then your NW characters are immune to this.

nice. i was thinking about that combo.

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theamazingmrg
Jun 25 2014 09:20 PM

I guessed from your other comment ;)

 

Just be careful with events.  They will only be immune to the ones that specifically target characters.  On of the many confusing things about this game ;p

what do you mean? i don't get it. this card is targeting characters, isn't it?

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theamazingmrg
Jun 26 2014 02:28 PM
This card is, yes. But if it said: "Choose an opponent. That opponent must discard all characters from play." then Jon Snows immunity wouldn't work as the characters aren't the targets of the event.

Actually, you're incorrect. If it said that, Jon Snow would still be immune, as per the scope of immunity. Just because the opponent is doing the choosing doesn't mean it's not an event doing the discarding. The scope of immunity protects Jon Snow him from being chosen, but also being affected even when he is not chosen.

 

You're conflating the 'choose an opponent' with 'the only thing the card is affecting is the opponent'. The best example would be an effect that said "Choose an opponent. That player's characters may not defend this challenge" (Jon Snow would ignore this) - but one that said "Choose an opponent, that opponent may not declare defenders this challenge" - this is a case where the restriction is *placed* upon the opponent, not upon Jon Snow, so it would in fact take full effect.

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theamazingmrg
Jun 26 2014 03:51 PM
Fair enough. It was just a quick, off-the-top-of-my-head example to illustrate that an immunity to events doesn't always mean the effect of an event cannot affect cards with the immunity (silly, overly complicated rules!)

these are  the things i don't unterstand. i don't really get the difference between effect and event and the targeting thing... :(

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theamazingmrg
Jun 26 2014 05:48 PM
The main rulebook has a breakdown of the different card types. Events are one-shot cards that have an effect then go to the discard pile (usually).

An effect is something that happens when you use the card. In the case of Westeros Bleeds the effect is the discarding of the characters.

The targeting thing is the most complicated but I wouldn't worry about it till you're more familiar with the rest of the rules.
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Mnbrightblade
Sep 27 2015 04:42 PM
Am I correct that there is no point within the dominance phase this card can be played prior dominance determination and reward? You can't use this card to discard a bunch of players with power tokens to prevent the game from being won, correct?

Correct. No player actions may be triggered in the Dominance phase until after dominance is counted and awarded.