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Drogon



Drogon

Unique Drogon



Type: Character House: Targaryen
Cost: 3 Strength: 4 Icons: Military
Game Text:
Creature. Dragon.
Renown.
No attachments.
Viserion cannot be killed.
Number: 117 Set: AHA
Quantity: 3 Illustrator: Christopher Burdett
Recent Decks: targ - new dragons no agenda v2
New Super Targaryen Dragons U v2


15 Comments

drogon should totally have the deadly trait

What if I have duplicate on one of this dragons,can i use it?Cannot be killed,nothing about cannot be saved.

You can use a dupe if you want for saves against discard effects. Seems a bit ineffective for a save effect unless his text box gets blanked

What if I have duplicate on one of this dragons,can i use it?Cannot be killed,nothing about cannot be saved.

 

You can have dupe on it, you can use it, and if he cannot be killed there's no need to attempt saving him from being killed.

I want to play this dragons as fast as i can,so I have 2 copies of Drogon,Viserion and Rhaegal.I'm trying to make useful their dupes(when all of them already in play).For example if I can save a dragon,another my character will stay in play.

But if you lose a Mill-Challenge you CANNOT choose Drogon as Target if it cannot be killed. Therefore you cannot

save another Character by discarding a Dupe from Drogon. Simply because you cannot even choose him.

Thanks.That's the point.I cannot even choose the dragon for mill claim.

If another player is running Targaryen and I have this Drogon in play will it prevent their Viserion from being killed?

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MagnusLothar
Dec 12 2014 07:34 AM

Yes, as there's no specific reference to player control.  Similar things happen with other cards  Take Traitorous Crow, for example, which allows you to discard "a Night's Watch character from play" when it comes out of shadows.  If you can give the trait to an opponent's character, then you could choose it for discarding.

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MagnusLothar
Dec 12 2014 10:55 AM

Another example might be Cersei Lannister (LotR).  If you were playing against Lannister as Lannister, and both players had her out, then both players would gain the benefits of her ability (claiming a power for an intrigue challenge you won, then choosing stealth or deadly).

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slothgodfather
Dec 12 2014 05:21 PM

Actually, that logic is incorrect.  When a card is self-referential, it always means itself - not other cards controlled by you or your opponent.  So you couldn't get that Cersei interaction you mention.  However, take a look at the ability of Cersei's Attendant. [Response: After Cersei Lannister or Cersei's Attendant is killed, choose and kneel a character.] She has a self referential ability as well as a "generic" ability that looks for Cersei.   If you have an attendant in play and your's Cersei dies, you can trigger the attendant's ability.    You would NOT get to trigger the ability if your opponent's Attendant died since that portion of the ability is self-referential.

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MagnusLothar
Dec 13 2014 09:24 AM

Point taken about Cersei, based on: "(3.13) Self-Referential Cards

When a card refers to its own name (e.g., the Catelyn Stark (CORE S6) card that reads, "Response: After Catelyn Stark is declared as a defender..."), it is referring to itself only. This response cannot be triggered when an opponent's Catelyn Stark is declared as a defender."  
 
However, I'm not so sure that clears up the initial point made by jesture77. Drogon's passive ability doesn't seem self-referential to me: "Viserion cannot be killed".  Had it read "If you control Viserion, he cannot be killed" that would be a different matter.
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slothgodfather
Dec 15 2014 07:07 PM

You are correct that the dragons are not self-referential.  So the CBK (cannot be killed) abilities will apply to any character of that name.   So, if you have Drogon out, both you and your opponent's Viserion cannot be killed.

Very interesting.I have dragons with "cannot be killed".I play "wildfire assault" then I choose 3 chars(not dragons).All 6 stays alive.Is that correct?

Yes, it's the same with Valar Morgulis.