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The Kindly Man
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Darksbane
, Jan 16 2012 09:23 PM | Last updated May 14 2012 05:15 AM
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The Kindly Man
26 Comments
Many Powers Long Asleep (RoR) and
The Power of Faith (KotStorm).
Exactly the same thought I had... Stark? Really... I mean, I get it, but... really?
Well played, sir.
Here's how I read it: Character at end of phase goes Moribund: Dead Pile or Moribund: Discard Pile, as appropriate. Stalwart doesn't seem to be an activated effect, just a logic check. IF Moribund destination = Discard or Dead Pile, THEN destination = top of deck.
Contrast FAQ 4.14 Keywords: "Keyword effects with a point of initiation (such as ambush) cannot be canceled. Characters can be saved from the effects of a keyword like deadly."
The implication is that some keywords to not have a point of initiation, therefore do not necessarily trigger during the Passives or Response window. Stalwart is worded as a simple "instead" effect, so that's why I think when TKM discards a character, the "When a card with the “Stalwart†keyword is killed or discarded from play" text takes precedence.
Oh, and I think Grimwalker's idea works. As far as I can tell Stalwart is a constant replacement effect, which changes the moribund state to moribund:deck. (From the definition in CS rules, note the magic word instead in there.)
If you are already running an agenda, regardless of it is the Kindly Man or any other standard agenda(s), and you have a Kindly Man in play that dies, he goes to the dead pile just like every other dead character would.
thats just the way it reads.
If you are currently running an agenda, then it cannot become "moribund:agenda" because you already have one, so the replacement effect does not take place. Therefore, standard rules take place and the character is "moribund: dead pile". After all, the character was successfully killed. And unless something else tells us otherwise (like their replacement effect) then they are headed for the dead pile.