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House Florent Knight



  • Type: Character
  • Faction: Tyrell
  • Cost: 5
  • Icons: MilitaryIntrigue
  • Strength: 3
  • House Florent. Knight.
  • Forced Reaction: After House Florent Knight enters play, choose a character with the lowest STR in play, and discard it from play.
  • Quantity: 1
  • Number: 37
  • Illustrator: Adam Duff
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25 Comments

This can discard Fishwhiskers if we are looking at base STR when this is marshaled.  Might be part of the reason Fishwhiskers has that base STR.

I don't think Fishwhiskers is his main target. Knights want to play Summer plots (Calm, Tourney of the King, Joust Contest, etc), so they are already neutralizing him.

 

I'm not sure this card is any good right now. Knights want to build wide so the chances are you end up discarding one of your own cards. There's the option of building high with The Arbor and the 5 cost twins, which this card could fit in as a source of INT icon. Testing it will tell if he is any good or not. At least he might remove some claim soak for a more impactful MIL challange, which is not bad.

 

A Targ/Rose deck is getting more interesting each day.

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bored2excess
Apr 04 2016 08:06 PM

He's intended to synergize with song of summer, among other uses. Having your chumps 1 str higher than your opponents will help his trigger.

    • LordVampire and xchan like this

Didn't mean to imply Fishwhiskers as a main target.  Just meant to identify him as A target because they have matching base STR. 

Maybe a silly question, but can his ability resolve if there is more than one character with same "lowest" strength?

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FedericoFasullo
Apr 05 2016 10:51 AM

Nope. If there more than 1 character at the same str and that str is the lowest the criteria is not matched. He kills the ONLY one character with the lowest str.

 

Yes, this card is really underwhelming.

Nope. If there more than 1 character at the same str and that str is the lowest the criteria is not matched. He kills the ONLY one character with the lowest str.

 

Yes, this card is really underwhelming.

discard, not kill.  He can do it to himself too right?

 

This card is complete garbage, I can't imagine how many times he'd sack Margery. 

    • sawtoothautumn likes this

If he's sack your own characters or himself, you don't marshal him.  Don't underestimate the ability to discard an opponent's character from play just by marshaling a card.  Even if it's a low cost character, that's one fewer MIL claim or ability to chump block a challenge.

 

Cards that do this probably should be costly, because they weren't too costly in 1.0.

 

There's also that new Summer plot that gives +1 STR to all your characters and that will help this character toss away a 4 STR character just from marshaling him.

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bored2excess
Apr 05 2016 03:03 PM

Nope. If there more than 1 character at the same str and that str is the lowest the criteria is not matched. He kills the ONLY one character with the lowest str.

 

Yes, this card is really underwhelming.

 

This sounds like you think it only works if only one character has the lowest strength. It lets you pick from all qualifying characters

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linkingverbs
Apr 05 2016 03:33 PM

Another nice target for Arianne

    • LoneElfRanger and xchan like this

This sounds like you think it only works if only one character has the lowest strength. It lets you pick from all qualifying characters


That sounds correct. Otherwise it would say "choose the character..." rather than "choose a character...".
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PatrickHaynes
Apr 05 2016 05:14 PM

Yeah if you are discarding your own character for his ability you are not doing it right. If your opponent doesn't have any characters with the lowest str, probably don't marshal this guy. If he is discarding your own margaery I have no idea what is happening in your game. He synergizes with QoT and Arianne and could be pretty solid if you have the gold to pay for him. Doesn't blow my ming but still pretty good.

This sounds like you think it only works if only one character has the lowest strength. It lets you pick from all qualifying characters

Never said one but if youre playing against a team that's pumping out high level cards, i.e Martell, you could very well wind up in that situation. But regardless, I would TO THE ROSE BANNER him first for sure.

The cost wouldn't be an issue if you bring him in with the QoT, only doing so if there's a reasonable target. The artwork is amazing though.

The thing is, there are better targets with QoT. He just has too much competition at 5 gold with KoF, Horas, Hobber, Littlefinger, Syrio, etc. He just doesn't do enough to compete with them.

    • MaShiKai likes this
I can't help but feel this card is FFG testing the water with cards discarding on enters play. It was really powerful in 1st edition, (though a lot of the cards that did it had good stats even without the ability), I'd rather have a guy like this who isn't for every deck but who I could see being quite the monster in the right place than an autoinclude (I'm sure when that happens it will be a Lanni card ;) )
There's also that new Summer plot that gives +1 STR to all your characters and that will help this character toss away a 4 STR character just from marshaling him.

 

But still, most of the time you will still only get a reducer char out of it or some other crap, except if you have played Wildfire Assault or First Snow. But then you can't play the +1str Summer plot... and he himself has only 3 str, so...

So to be clear, if my opponent has a 1str character, AND I have a 1str character, does House Florent Knight's ability discard one of them?  Or neither?

 

Unless I'm misreading, there are conflicting opinions above.  I'm probably misreading.

It definitely discards one of them, which you choose. I'm not sure at all how that guy above interpreted it to mean that it won't hit anyone if there's a tie.

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HouseCatofWar
Feb 06 2017 10:07 PM

I figured this card would get a bit better as Tyrell got more strength buffs, but I was not expecting Tyrell to get a Strength debuff. Renly's Pavalion changes this guy from being okay to great. He reliably kills a Str 2 (usually cost 2 or 3) character under most circumstances. His impact is especially strong in a post Valar board. He's a 2x in my Tyrell deck for the foreseeable future.

    • VonWibble likes this

He discards a character, doesn't kill them. He isn't worth it, in my opinion, his stats are simply too weak for his ability to sometimes do mediocre stuff. Before you had Wildfire, First snow etc. to deal with small guys, now you have valar morghulis as well, that makes him kinda unnecessary. 

 

It definitely discards one of them, which you choose. I'm not sure at all how that guy above interpreted it to mean that it won't hit anyone if there's a tie.

I think in GoT1 "highest" and "lowest" conditions were not satisfied if there were characters who tied for highest or lowest STR, maybe because like vast majority of good characters had 3 STR(usually costed 4 gold), so it had to be one guy, but I'm not sure about this, maybe someone can say.

Florent Knigth is best AFTER reset (Valar, Varys) not instead. After Valar, both players tend to rebuild desperately, and he chokes in that moment not only a claim soak but can do it to 3STRs.. Not to mention he can discard most annoying characters instantly: Brann, Shireen, Raven.

@Vrgmaister:

Part of the discussion for Roseroad Patrol is about ties for highest and lowest, and also references first edition.

 

The consensus was that there can be ties when the ability references "a" card instead of "the" card with the highest or lowest value.

 

EDIT: Actually, when I look at it closer, I see that you were a part of that discussion.

Ya I forgot lol. 

    • jumbles likes this

I figured this card would get a bit better as Tyrell got more strength buffs, but I was not expecting Tyrell to get a Strength debuff. Renly's Pavalion changes this guy from being okay to great. He reliably kills a Str 2 (usually cost 2 or 3) character under most circumstances. His impact is especially strong in a post Valar board. He's a 2x in my Tyrell deck for the foreseeable future.


With Renly's Pavilion it is now possible for this guy to take out a STR 4 guy in some very specific circumstances.

For example, a complete board wipe, followed by them playing out 2 characters, wit STR 2 and 4. Change both to 3 and trigger the Knight!