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Bilbo Baggins
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Darksbane
, Apr 08 2011 11:52 PM | Last updated Jul 23 2011 10:20 PM
Type: Hero Sphere: Lore Threat Threshold: 9 Willpower: 1 Attack: 1 Defense: 2 Hit Points: 2 Hobbit. The first player draws 1 additional card in the resource phase. "Well, my dear fellow," said bilbo, "now you've heard the news, can't you spare me a moment? I want your help in something urgent." - The Fellowship of the Ring Set: THFG Number: 1 Quantity: 1 Illustrator: Tony Foti |
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But when used in one player games, i think his ability is really maximized, and he becomes an integral part of a deck's draw ability.
Does anyone anyone use him for larger games? I would think his ability becomes watered down when it is only helping you every other turn or longer.
Beravor (Core) I think is a better choice for a larger game, especally with the various ways other decks can ready her.
yeah burning brand would stop those effects but then u got a problem of where you getting all these lore resources? brand, protector, and all draw cards are making you pay a LOT of resources before you even play a single ally. your going to need a second lore character just to make bilbo usable im afraid. bilbo would shine in a secrecy deck if you can somehow make it work. unfornutately it is impossible to play bilbo in a 3 companion secrecy deck unless your willing to be higher than threat 20 on turn one. 21 is a low as u can go and this is with blue glorfindel with bilbo in deck.
There are a few card effects that require exhausting a character/hero. If you don´t count on using Bilbo too often for the regular stuff, it can be a great boon for those effects. Those are all pretty neat cards at a low cost.
i have to give props to this. that is very good thinking and i admit ive overlooked that. i intend to test what i can make out of that. My concern before testing is that the drawing cards aspect of the deck is nearly lost but the ability for bilbo to exhaust himself for the sake of his betters has appeal. after all his effect is static regardless of how u use him.
What I don't understand is how people here are claiming he is so amazing if you just throw a few cards on him. Just two...or maybe four...
ANY hero would be an amazing defender with a set of expensive lore cards thrown on them. And that is just the problem. To even make Bilbo viable as a defender, you need to load him up, and then he gets to be...good, not even really great. And he still has low HP so he can't even eat an unopposed attack in an emergency, or defend multiple heavy hitters even with fast hitch, as even a couple of attack squeaking through will end him. Not to mention that all those cards are expensive, and he can't pay for them on his own, and if you are running lore you probably have a good chunk of other expensive cards that are way more important than turning Bilbo into a solid defender. It takes too many turns to set him up, even if you draw what you need. Any hero given the cards people above are suggesting would be better.
To illustrate my point: give Bombur (lower threat cost as a bonus!) ringmail, protector of Lorien, and burning brand. This is roughly comparable to what people are putting on Bilbo. Now, with similar cards, Bombur is a much more effective defender with loads of HP, and as a bonus, combos well with Ori, who is also low threat, an excellent quester, provides card draw, etc. Some may say, "Well, you are just saying Bombur is great after he has all of these things..." Yes. That is what I am saying. ANY hero can be made great if they are given a set of great cards. And most of them will be made much better than Bilbo is on even his best day.
Rant over. Not that I have argued about this with my brother extensively before or anything...
Bilbo sucks. For those that want to play him thematically here's away to make the most of him.
Common Cause & Spare Hood and Cloak. Basically, use him to ready other heroes.
He sucks- play with other heroes. But if you are building a theme based deck the cards above will help thematically make him useful as a support to the rest of the team.
I think he should be erratated to something like:
Threat Threashold: 9
Willpower: 2 Attack: 1 Defense: 2 Hit Points: 3
or to:
Threat Threashold: 7
Willpower: 1 Attack: 1 Defense: 2 Hit Points: 2
And keeping his ability
I wouldn´t say he sucks. He´s more likely "B-tier hero" and he can be pretty good when playing solo or Outlands decks. Just saying. To me he´s 3 star hero.
Besides the points I mentioned earlier, there´s also still the option of playing a deck where you need all your heroes to be hobbits.
This binder-fodder really needs an errata to give him a threat cost of 6. All of a sudden, he'd be playable in Hobbit secrecy decks.
I like the artwork on the card and I really want to like this hero, but the 1 willpower is a bummer for solo play. I wish he had 2 will and maybe another HP, and to balance him out change his ability to be a card draw every other round or give him the ability of Expert Treasure-Hunter built into his card, which would kind of go with the theme as well. His willpower hurts. I guess you could hope to put Protector of Lorien on him. Kind of wish it didn't come to that though.
He is awesome with ring-mail, and has been a key part of many of my two player decks.
Would he be nice coupled with Erestor and Beravor? First turn you can start with 14 cards, and each turn, you can draw 8 cards from your 90 cards deck.