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Bilbo Baggins


Bilbo Baggins
Type: Hero Sphere: Lore
Threat Threashold: 9
Willpower: 1 Attack: 1 Defense: 2 Hit Points: 2
Hobbit.
The first player draws 1 additional card in the resource phase.

"Well, my dear fellow," said bilbo, "now you've heard the news, can't you spare me a moment? I want your help in something urgent." - The Fellowship of the Ring
Set: THFG Number: 1
Quantity: 1
Illustrator: Tony Foti


18 Comments

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midwestsurfer
Sep 21 2011 10:34 PM
You know, I thought Bilbo was useless at first. Besides an armor of 2, his stats really aren't that great. His threat level of 9 seems way too high for a character who plays a supporting roll at best.

But when used in one player games, i think his ability is really maximized, and he becomes an integral part of a deck's draw ability.

Does anyone anyone use him for larger games? I would think his ability becomes watered down when it is only helping you every other turn or longer.
He is awesome single player and I could see using him in a 2 player game, but I don't think I'd use him in a game with more players than that.
Beravor (Core) I think is a better choice for a larger game, especally with the various ways other decks can ready her.
I consistently use Beravor (Core) instead, even in solo games. What really hurts Bilbo for me are his low hit points, which make him a poor choice as a defender. I would be more likely to use him in multiplayer games where I have more support. Solo I just need more flexibility from my heroes.
I think you have to build a deck around Bilbo, a single Protector of Lorien (Core) makes him awesome already.
Attach him with some Fast Hitch (TDM) and a Protector of Lorien (Core) and you'll have one of the most powerful heroes available.
Really wish he quested for 2. Still, the ability is amazing in single-player.
The obvious comparison is Beravor (Core), but I think the Hobbit comes out just slightly ahead, at least in single player. The difference is, he's more useful than Beravor in the first few turns, as his ability is passive and doesn't require an exhaust. That can be very important getting through the first few turns, as he can help quest or defend against weak attackers. Later in the game, Beravor is the obvious superior choice, but in my experience the first three turns or so are by far the most important stage of the game, so Bilbo is slightly superior from that perspective.
    • sirprim likes this
Ori with a Dwarf Deck has better stats and less threat than Bilbo. And combined with Bombur & Bifur (although can't really use Bifur's effect without an ally) you only need 1 Dwarf ally played to get the effect starting turn 2. There are a lot of Green Dwarves available for 3 cost or less. Can go a different Color Dwarf even instead of Bifur and there are still 9 green Dwarves costing 2 or less.
I was wondering if Bilbo costed so much because you could use the Bilbo only items like Sting with him? But I'm not finding that as an exception to the treasure rules anywhere.
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renegadeshepherd
Mar 30 2013 08:26 PM
the problem with bilbo is that he is useless without combos. fast hitch, protector, etc are good but what happens when he loses those to shadow effects and such? well then hes back to being a bad card. beravor for the sake of drawing cards only needs one card to work as good or better than bilbo and that is unexpected courage which gives u 2 cards every turn. yes u had to build a deck around it but i know u inserted less cards than building around bilbo. and to be honest, u likely had to insert that will card that shuffles the discard into deck anyway for protector and bilbo to get the most out of him. bilbo was just poorly executed im afraid. ori and beravor both outdraw him are within + or - one threat and as far as hobbit support frodo is on top of the mountain in all departments. finally, lore is the weakest of the four types right now so you have to view them as support for the time being, and poor bilbo just doesnt support beyond his text and resource type. beravor can fill any role with all 2's even if not well and ori has dain to make him a great quest and respectable fighter. whats bilbo got?
    • Jedhead likes this
Well he can use burning brand to cancel those shadow cards. If you play a deck with Arwen he can have 3 def, with protector and a few fast hitches he can hold his own for most enemies.
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renegadeshepherd
Apr 06 2013 08:29 PM

Well he can use burning brand to cancel those shadow cards. If you play a deck with Arwen he can have 3 def, with protector and a few fast hitches he can hold his own for most enemies.


yeah burning brand would stop those effects but then u got a problem of where you getting all these lore resources? brand, protector, and all draw cards are making you pay a LOT of resources before you even play a single ally. your going to need a second lore character just to make bilbo usable im afraid. bilbo would shine in a secrecy deck if you can somehow make it work. unfornutately it is impossible to play bilbo in a 3 companion secrecy deck unless your willing to be higher than threat 20 on turn one. 21 is a low as u can go and this is with blue glorfindel with bilbo in deck.
    • Jedhead likes this
Agreed, a 2nd lore character will help the bilbo set up a lot.
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Nerdmeister
Apr 09 2013 08:11 AM
Use him for Healing Herbs (FoS) and/or Spare Hood and Cloak (OHaUH) (which combos well with Fast Hitch (TDM)).
There are a few card effects that require exhausting a character/hero. If you don´t count on using Bilbo too often for the regular stuff, it can be a great boon for those effects. Those are all pretty neat cards at a low cost.
Bilbo + Burning brand + fast hitch... no need to speak more. One of the best solo characters.
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renegadeshepherd
Apr 13 2013 04:56 AM

Use him for Healing Herbs (FoS) and/or Spare Hood and Cloak (OHaUH) (which combos well with Fast Hitch (TDM)).
There are a few card effects that require exhausting a character/hero. If you don´t count on using Bilbo too often for the regular stuff, it can be a great boon for those effects. Those are all pretty neat cards at a low cost.


i have to give props to this. that is very good thinking and i admit ive overlooked that. i intend to test what i can make out of that. My concern before testing is that the drawing cards aspect of the deck is nearly lost but the ability for bilbo to exhaust himself for the sake of his betters has appeal. after all his effect is static regardless of how u use him.
I think Bilbo is one of the most overcosted heroes in the game to date. His ability is nice in solo play (fairly lame in multiplayer), but other than that, he is mostly a waste. Unfortunately, he has terrible stats other than defense, and his low HP makes him a liability as a defender.

What I don't understand is how people here are claiming he is so amazing if you just throw a few cards on him. Just two...or maybe four...

ANY hero would be an amazing defender with a set of expensive lore cards thrown on them. And that is just the problem. To even make Bilbo viable as a defender, you need to load him up, and then he gets to be...good, not even really great. And he still has low HP so he can't even eat an unopposed attack in an emergency, or defend multiple heavy hitters even with fast hitch, as even a couple of attack squeaking through will end him. Not to mention that all those cards are expensive, and he can't pay for them on his own, and if you are running lore you probably have a good chunk of other expensive cards that are way more important than turning Bilbo into a solid defender. It takes too many turns to set him up, even if you draw what you need. Any hero given the cards people above are suggesting would be better.

To illustrate my point: give Bombur (lower threat cost as a bonus!) ringmail, protector of Lorien, and burning brand. This is roughly comparable to what people are putting on Bilbo. Now, with similar cards, Bombur is a much more effective defender with loads of HP, and as a bonus, combos well with Ori, who is also low threat, an excellent quester, provides card draw, etc. Some may say, "Well, you are just saying Bombur is great after he has all of these things..." Yes. That is what I am saying. ANY hero can be made great if they are given a set of great cards. And most of them will be made much better than Bilbo is on even his best day.

Rant over. Not that I have argued about this with my brother extensively before or anything... :)
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notyetsuperman
Aug 06 2014 11:40 PM

Bilbo sucks.  For those that want to play him thematically here's away to make the most of him.  

Common Cause & Spare Hood and Cloak.  Basically, use him to ready other heroes.  

 

He sucks- play with other heroes.  But if you are building a theme based deck the cards above will help thematically make him useful as a support to the rest of the team.   


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