Brutal. You have to trash this as fast as you can, or you may watch the corporation win the game.

That feeling you get when the HB player just keeps pulling these out of Archives.

Eeehhhh... I think you guys may be overestimating its power a bit. It's not impossible to get counters on this thing, but nor is it particularly easy, and for it to protect an installed agenda you need to have a second copy in hand at the relevant time. There are a lot of conditions that need to be met for this to be useful.

Eeehhhh... I think you guys may be overestimating its power a bit. It's not impossible to get counters on this thing, but nor is it particularly easy, and for it to protect an installed agenda you need to have a second copy in hand at the relevant time. There are a lot of conditions that need to be met for this to be useful.

I think we've found Advanced Assembly Line's purpose. Coupled with Adonis/Launch Campaign or an occasional piece of ICE, the counters are accumulated quite fast.

btw: does it gain a counter from itself?

Good question. I would be inclined to say no, as my understanding of the rules is that a card's text is inactive until the act of rezzing it is complete. Seems like something that an official ruling should be made on.

Good question. I would be inclined to say no, as my understanding of the rules is that a card's text is inactive until the act of rezzing it is complete. Seems like something that an official ruling should be made on.

That would be my interpretation as well. Shouldn't be too hard to reach 2 counters. However, Film Critic is still out there to ruin fancy plays and second, finding a copy of your agenda, would require a Fast Track. This card just needs Team Sponsorship so you can throw the copy in the scoring server so it doesn't stay in HQ.

If I understand correctly, trashing this after the ability has been used does not stop the effect?

. . . and for it to protect an installed agenda you need to have a second copy in hand at the relevant time . . .

Unless, of course, the Runner is running HQ: no real combo there, so this is pretty great versus Criminal. It also lets you collect copies of one Agenda in hand and protect them there . . . powerful cards like Legwork start looking silly.

Has huge potential in Jinteki if you pick an Agenda that isn't The Future Perfect. That's a nightmare. Works everywhere else by hanging on to the Agenda that isn't NAPD.

You're going to see Agendas in HQ, so decide which one(s) you'll hold and make this thing protect them. Then go ahead and score them one after the other.

Also, remember to put Chimera in your deck. Fast Track isn't the stupidest choice either.

All of this is contingent on your ability to protect Lakshmi, but even so, you can get a turn out of it: Runner starts running a server; Rez Lakshmi; Rez ICE for tokens; reveal that Agenda in your hand; watch Runner's sad face.

If that's no good, then Nisei MkII isn't good either, and neither is The Future Perfect or NAPD; Caprice-Ash on a server doesn't matter, etc. Buying a single turn is huge, especially late.

You've proposed a bunch of false dichotomies there. Nisei MkII is relevant the moment it's scored. Caprice and Ash are relevant the moment they're rezzed. TFP and NAPD have protection built into them. These cards are good independent of any support, save a piece or two of ICE. Lakshmi requires several conditions to be met in order to be of any value whatsoever, so to imply its power-level is equivalent to those cards is just incorrect.

You've proposed a bunch of false dichotomies there. Nisei MkII is relevant the moment it's scored. Caprice and Ash are relevant the moment they're rezzed. TFP and NAPD have protection built into them. These cards are good independent of any support, save a piece or two of ICE. Lakshmi requires several conditions to be met in order to be of any value whatsoever, so to imply its power-level is equivalent to those cards is just incorrect.

I think you mean, "false comparisons" probably, and you're right, this is better than Caprice when HQ is being run, since there's no psi game.

Indeed. I meant 'false equivalences'. Brainfart. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree about the power of this card. I have no intention of playing it, but I'd be glad to be proven wrong.

Indeed. I meant 'false equivalences'. Brainfart. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree about the power of this card. I have no intention of playing it, but I'd be glad to be proven wrong.

I generally value your opinion more than I value mine.

This one will be interesting either way: it can play straightforward games, but also ludicrous jank with Allele Repression ("now my Agenda is over here, and you can't get it"). My money is on the straight play as better. It's also on this going strong in decks of 3/1 Agendas for ease of use. Don't underestimate its power when protecting "when accessed" Agendas: I really like its potential with Award Bait, TGTBT . . . even Explode-a-palooza

The Film Critic still shreds the whole idea to bits, and she is an easy to use strong-in-most-metas card, which generally reduces the Smartfabrics viability.

I really like your suggestions though, it is the rest of the pool that suffocates such opportunities.

The Film Critic still shreds the whole idea to bits, and she is an easy to use strong-in-most-metas card, which generally reduces the Smartfabrics viability.

 

I really like your suggestions though, it is the rest of the pool that suffocates such opportunities.

Agreed: Snatch and Grab is in the deck to deal with Film Critic. Runner could drop a Film Critic on click 1, run on 2, and clear the Critic on 3 and 4. If you're running 3/1 Agendas, trading a turn for that score is viable.

Shred the Critic on the following turn; the Runner is stuck until another comes out, etc. If the Runner doesn't do the 1,2,3,4 above, you've got him or her, because that Critic is dying with an Agenda on it.

All of that is dependent on Snatch and Grab. The Future is Now is not the worst thing ever . . . Lakshmi isn't perfect, but neither is Haarpsichord, etc. It's a piece of a reasonable approach.

As an aside, I love Film Critic: it wins games . . . but you better be able to do something while you wait around for it -- if you can't, the Corp is getting ahead and you might not catch up. Lakshmi is one way to get ahead.

So I've tested Lakshmi Smartfabrics yesterday. And I must say that, while it needs time and preparation, it's one heck of a card!

It was installed in a 2-layer server, along with Oaktown Grid. The best way I've found to accumulate counters is using Advanced Assembly Lines and, of course, ICE. Successful Demonstration was also helpful, as rezzing said ICE eats credits.

Hi to all. Suppose that in the start of the Corps turn I pay X counters and reveal an agenda worth X points; Runner runs Hq: accesses the agenda. Does he steals it?

Thanks in advance!

Hi to all. Suppose that in the start of the Corps turn I pay X counters and reveal an agenda worth X points; Runner runs Hq: accesses the agenda. Does he steals it?

 

Thanks in advance!

He does steal it, because the stealing-prevention-effect only lasts for the remainder of the turn in which you revealed that Agenda. So when you reveal it in your turn, it only lasts for your turn.

Thank you. What if I reveal it in the begining of the Runner's turn or in a window during runner's turn? I wonder if he runs and accesses it, does he steal it?

Thank you. What if I reveal it in the begining of the Runner's turn or in a window during runner's turn? I wonder if he runs and accesses it, does he steal it?

If you do that, he cannot steal it. Just make sure to reveal it in a paid ability window, before the Runner accesses it. If he accesses the Agenda before you reveal it, he will steal it immediately.