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Prophetic Farseer



Prophetic Farseer

Prophetic Farseer


Type: Army Unit
Faction: Eldar
Cost: 3
Attack Value: 2
Hit Points: 4
Command Icons: 1
Signature/Loyalty:
Traits: Psyker. Saim-Hann.

Reaction: After you deploy this unit, look at the top 3 cards of your opponent’s deck. Discard any number of those cards with 1 or more shield icons and place the remaining cards on top of his deck in any order.

Set: Decree of Ruin Number: 20 Quantity: 3
Illustrator: Jorge Fares Maese
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23 Comments

dare i ask whether or not this is a URIEN MILL CARD?

    • sammann11 likes this

It might be...give me 4-6 more "good" mill cards and I will definitly try that kind of deck out.

I think you could be onto something. Knowing the opponent can't draw shields is a big plus also.

In Eldorath and Kith, I don't see this being played. No room. Can't see it being worth the resources in Aun'shi either.

In Baharroth, its worth looking at. I regularly run Black Guardians, these are 1 more cost for 1 hammer and the text. Removing Warpstorms or burying Gun Drones for an extra turn - well worth the extra resource imo.

Lets also remember the Psyker keyword will count for something come the exhaust event later on.

In Shadowsun its a possibility. 4hP makes it a fairly attractive target for attachments. The ability also helps to reduce the chances of Ecstatic Seizures ruining my day.

Finally, love the art!
    • Whingewood, Gosgosh and xRAVEx like this
Shame it doesn't work with Dome of the Crystal Seers. That would be epic.
    • Cambeul and refbot like this

Don't think I would play this with Aun'shi because I would rather them draw a hand full of shields so my Armor Can laugh at your dead hand.

 

Too bad thought that this did not work with Holding Cell.

yeah. aun'shi wouldnt run this.

 

i dont think shadowsun would either. its ability only triggers when the card gets put into play. shadowsun wants units with good abilities WHILE in play, like BAV and or Firedrake Terminators

Don't think I would play this with Aun'shi because I would rather them draw a hand full of shields so my Armor Can laugh at your dead hand.

 

Too bad thought that this did not work with Holding Cell.

 

I would not want them to.

 

I dont know how you yourself play or even build decks, but I myself do not include cards just for their shield value but for their respective effect(s). Because in a vs-Aun'Shi-situation they will be worthless (or any other armorbane unit [Cato, Tyranid-Elites, Iyanden Wraithguard...]) and the last thing you want is a worthless event/attachment sitting in your hand.

Interesting unit. Should usually get to discard at least one shield, possibly two. So at the same time you're denying some combat resilience and most factions' strongest tricks. 

Nothing spectacular statwise, but quite tanky by Eldar standards, and it's another Psysker for Mind War. 

 

Will definitely give him a shot.

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theamazingmrg
Dec 01 2015 09:37 PM
He's obviously designed for the new Warlord...
https://www.fantasyf...e-final-gambit/
Yes, we do need another Psyker or 2 for her.

The new warlord's got the Warlock Destructor at least. This will be good for the warlord since, when the warlord's at the same planet as it it's got 5 hp, which is amazing, but it definitely has strong potential with Urien as well, so long as it doesn't affect his cost curve.

As others have mentioned, however, I can't see this working brilliantly well with any other warlord, except maybe Shadowsun as a cheaper Wroth (that isn't unique). It's not inherently bad in other decks, it's just fighting for space.

4/5 for Urien and Talyesin
3.5/5 for Shadowsun
3/5 for all others

 

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FedericoFasullo
Dec 02 2015 01:37 PM

Why nobody is thinking of eldorath mill deck? O.o or Kith mill deck? there's no warlord suited for this theme, so for now any WL can work.

 

The ranking is 5/5 any mill deck and 3/5 for any non mill deck

Why nobody is thinking of eldorath mill deck? O.o or Kith mill deck? there's no warlord suited for this theme, so for now any WL can work.

 

The ranking is 5/5 any mill deck and 3/5 for any non mill deck

 

Urien best suits the mill theme because of the Crucible of Malediction's combo with Torture events. The only problem he has is that Slake the Thirst is overpriced for him.

As a point of reference, I just tried this card in my Urien deck. Game finished on the final planet and I got a total of 2 of these out, dropping 5 of my opponent's cards. Given that I got my first Crucible on turn 2 and my second on turn 4/5 (can't remember), my opponent was down to 9 cards in the deck at the final battle with a 4 card hand (3 of which I threw mid battle, last used as a shield). I don't run Slake The Thirst.

The combo this has with the Crucible is amazing. You play Urien's free event, proc the crucible, throw away whatever isn't and event, then play this. Worst case, all 3 cards you see are not events, thereby leaving you with a higher chance of throwing 1 card. Best case, 2/3 of the previewed cards are events, leaving you with a higher chance of throwing 3. Either way you know what's there for 2 of the 3, and can decide if it's worth it there and then.

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FedericoFasullo
Dec 03 2015 08:13 AM

Urien best suits the mill theme because of the Crucible of Malediction's combo with Torture events. The only problem he has is that Slake the Thirst is overpriced for him.

 

IMHO Urine suits mill theme WORST because to play slake the thirst you need to pay gold. Crucible malediction is a good mill card but slake the thirst is plain better :\

IMHO Urine suits mill theme WORST because to play slake the thirst you need to pay gold. Crucible malediction is a good mill card but slake the thirst is plain better :\

 

I strongly disagree, you need all the mill cards you can muster, for it to work. Just because Slake is better doesn't mean you don't need the other mill cards.

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FedericoFasullo
Dec 03 2015 09:43 AM

To play Crucible of Malediction you have to:

 

- play tortures: they are not really performing at the moment and they have no interaction with mill theme

- play urine: you have to pay your MVP card 1 resource more unlike other warlords

- urine is not really a good warlord 

 

That's why I believe he is the worst choice (at the moment). It's true that you need to gather mill cards as much as you can but you don't have to forget all other details. It's like saying "we need to buy as much food as we can" forgetting you don't have a refrigerator.

Mill decks don't exist yet, not in any playable fashion, and this is only a baby step in the right direction. Milling 0-3 cards for 3R is not going to cut it!

 

Until we know what an actual mill deck would look like, I think its fairly pointless to say which warlord would make the best mill deck. 

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FedericoFasullo
Dec 03 2015 09:54 AM

Also true.

Current mill cards:

Units
Prophetic Farseer
Biel-Tan Warpspiders

Supports

Crucible of Malediction

Urien's Obliette

Events
Slake The Thirst

Given that 2/5 potential mill cards are only playable with Urien (especially since Tortures are overcosted outside a Urien deck), I do believe that he is a better choice. If you really want to go all out you can combine the Warpspiders with a Hypex Injector and add in some Colliseum Fighters so that you always have a few copies of his sig support.

 

However, the obvious elephant in the room here is that you have to still have space for things that will actually keep you in the game, let alone help you win it. As such, as has been said, milling (to an empty enemy deck at least) is not an effective strategy in the current meta. That's not to say that milling itself is inherently bad, it's just that trying to win by it is troublesome. Nevertheless, if your intention is to mill then this card certainly helps, and as I've mentioned before knowing when to play this card by knowing the top cards of your opponent's deck (even just the top 1 card from Urien's Obliette) massively increases its value.

I tried this unit in Baharroth ang got unimpressed. It usually hits only 1 card. Maybe it will get more usage in Taleysin, but right now I'd rate it 3/5. 

That depends heavily on what the card was you got. There will be times where it is an event that can swing a battle in a big way.

Also, if you were going for assassination (were you Tau allied? - I can't see DE alliance wanting it) then knowing they were unlikely to draw extra shields without winning lots of command (against Baharroth this is unlikely) is big indeed.

Tbh this is looking like a good piece of a Shadowsun elder heavy deck, going nicely with Aux Armour, Mind War, and the reducer location. Another chunky psyker or 2 and it will be a thing, I'm sure.

I think Baharroth can use this Psyker along with others like Warlock Destructor so he can use Mind War for extra control. 3 cost for 1/2/4 isn't terrible, and that extra health will make it harder to be killed. I'm also considering adding him to my Shadowsun for Mind War since Tau has very little combat tricks they can use. 

Shadowsun gets better use out of him since the high hp makes him a good target for attachments and Wroth is already a good unit in shadowsun, whom also has Mind War synergy