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Bear Island

Submitted Darksbane , Aug 18 2010 05:34 PM | Last updated Jun 26 2014 04:50 AM

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Bear Island Type: Location House: Stark Cost:3 Game Text: *The North. House Mormont.* House Stark only. Dominance: Kneel Bear Island to choose and kill a non-House Stark character without attachments. Use this ability only if every card you control has the House Stark affiliation. Number: 31 Set: AE Quantity: 3 Illustrator: Franz Miklis
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29 Comments

Rousseau

Apr 05 2012 04:16 AM

Does Bear Island work if you are using an agenda besides the Siege of Winterfell? Or is this not the case given that according to the FAQ, they "are not to be considered in play"?

sWhiteboy

Apr 05 2012 04:21 AM

No agendas have a house affiliation.

Agendas do not count because they are out of the play area.

marklive

May 31 2012 09:31 AM

ummm...SICK SICK card. Def gonna add this to my stark deck, 3 gold, basically 95% of my deck is stark affiliation, so this is almost a must. The problem is, I might have to run that plot that allows both players to search for a loc (not a big fan of plots that help other players

), cause this card pretty much should be played almost w/ in the first or second round.

What stark or neutral loc can stand this loc if possible?

NuFenix

May 31 2012 11:43 AM

ummm...SICK SICK card. Def gonna add this to my stark deck, 3 gold, basically 95% of my deck is stark affiliation, so this is almost a must. The problem is, I might have to run that plot that allows both players to search for a loc (not a big fan of plots that help other players ), cause this card pretty much should be played almost w/ in the first or second round.

What stark or neutral loc can stand this loc if possible?

If you did have a neutral location, or any other neutral card in fact, you wouldn't be able to use Bear Island as every card you control would not be House Stark.

Personally, whilst the effect is powerful, I find that not being able to use any neutral card is too punishing. No Street of Steel, no Flea Bottom, not even a Rusted Sword or Maester Aemon. Plus, with the cost of 3, it would get targetted by Newly Made Lord or Search and Detain, to prevent you killing off their characters.

ProfessorLust

May 31 2012 12:36 PM

additionally you cannot even have chains in your deck for this to work.
Steel Link (TIoR) as an example could stand it but it would also prevent bear island from working.

slothgodfather

May 31 2012 01:55 PM

Yea it is a powerfull effect, but like NuFenix said, it comes at a fairly high price. If you have any non-stark card in play then you can't use this card. You would want a 100% stark deck (events don't count) because otherwise any non-stark card would be dead draw as long as you wanted to use Bear Island.

NuFenix

Nov 07 2012 12:02 AM

After being on the receiving end of this recently, and due to House of Dreams (ARotD) being printed, I now feel this card is TOO good.

With the new multi-faction Kingdom reducers, and the card pool expanding, being able to use only Stark cards, and thus every turn pointing at your opponent's most annoying character without attachments and kill them off is so amazingly powerful, with options to deal with it so few and far between.

Laxen

Nov 07 2012 07:29 AM

Start playing attachments

NuFenix

Nov 07 2012 12:46 PM

Cheers Laxen

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zordren

Nov 07 2012 01:24 PM

And hope you don't get a mirror match...

manutd14

Nov 26 2012 10:02 PM

I think with new agenda Bear Island has to be resricted....

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ShadowcatX2000

Nov 27 2012 02:21 AM

Bear Island is good, but if it starts dominating the scene just toss a couple of attachments in your deck. No need to restrict it.

Laxen

Nov 27 2012 09:29 AM

Castellan of the Rock agrees

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SirDuck

Nov 27 2012 03:53 PM

I have been playing with this out of House of Dreams a good bit lately. I will say this its a solid card, but it has some major weaknesses. First with your 3 gold for setup, not being able to include any zero cost reducers into the deck(other than narrow seax3), you are stuck with 6 out of 10 resource locations being limited unless you decide to run kingdom of shadows. The only good inhouse shadow characters are Meera and Arya, so that will have a huge chance to backfire against you. If you play against another stark, obviously you pull harrenhal instead, but they have the advantage of using neutral reducers and characters. You can not effectively run carrion birds so both winter and summer decks have a large advantage on you. Targ 'jumper' decks rarely leave their good characters on the table by the dom phase for you to kill them. When building a deck you now have to plan for Bear Island, Aegons hill, Tunnels of the red keep, dragonpit...that is the only difference. Remember HoD location abilities can still be cancelled, and bear island can only target non stark characters without attachments and can be saved from...

theCrow

Nov 27 2012 06:22 PM

Don't know about HoD, but I want to give this old card second chance in Maege Mormont (AHM) + Rickon Stark (MotA) deck. Limited recource location won't be that much of a problem, there are other downsides of course, but overall I think that it will give me more flexibility than HoD. I shall find out.

You can not effectively run carrion birds so both winter and summer decks have a large advantage on you.

I think I would risk 2x Carrion Bird (TWoW) in such a deck - it can shuffle itself back into your deck before dominance

Jovan

Jun 07 2013 09:03 AM

I am assuming you cannot run any attachments such as White Raven (TWoW) as it will make Bear Island (AE) unusable?

slothgodfather

Jun 07 2013 01:49 PM

Yea it is a powerfull effect, but like NuFenix said, it comes at a fairly high price. If you have any non-stark card in play then you can't use this card. You would want a 100% stark deck (events don't count) because otherwise any non-stark card would be dead draw as long as you wanted to use Bear Island.

VamboRools

Jun 26 2013 10:16 AM

Does bear island work if i have Brianne on my deck?

JCWamma

Jun 26 2013 10:27 AM

Yes, because she still has the Stark affiliation. It works so long as each card has the Stark affiliation, and doesn't stop working just because you happen to have another affiliation as well - so Narrow Sea (Core), Ser Jorah Mormont (PotS), etc. all work fine.

VamboRools

Jun 26 2013 12:03 PM

Okey good to know. Just made this bear island deck. Including all those three.

No1Sciguy

Dec 12 2013 04:38 PM

I am assuming you cannot run any attachments such as White Raven (TWoW) as it will make Bear Island (AE) unusable?

This is a good question. If it is attached to your house card is it still considered in play?

Ire

Dec 12 2013 05:27 PM

Yes it is, the house card is in play.
Also attachments on out of play cards are still considered to be in play.

14Shirt

Dec 12 2013 05:31 PM

(3.24) Card Type Changes to Attachment
An attachment is defined as a card in your
deck, hand, discard pile, or dead pile, of the
actual "attachment" card type, as well as any
card in play that is considered to be "attached"
to another card.

AND EVEN

(3.43) Attachments on Out of Play Entities
When an attachment is specifically attached
to an out of play entity (such as a card in
Shadows, a plot card, a player's discard
pile, etc.), that attachment is considered to
be in play and under the command of its
controller

AND AS A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE ON PG 27

The same is true of
when White Raven is in play . . . and then White Raven
causes each player to take 1 less gold token
from the treasury

So, yeah, the card is in play and in your control, so it negates your chance to use the Bear Island ability.

Hewlett

Apr 17 2015 03:15 AM

So... if you use "they shall not cross" to save Bear Island, then enters game as a neutral boon attachment... (no choice on the matter) so you cant use Bear Island anymore anyway???

MagnusLothar

Apr 17 2015 07:54 AM

They Shall Not Cross is House Stark only, so presumably when it enters play as an attachment it wouldn't interfere with Bear Island's text conditions. But then 'House X only' is a deck-building restriction which I'm not sure counts as House affiliation, so I could be wrong.

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