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Margaery Tyrell
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Darksbane
, Apr 26 2013 05:37 AM | Last updated Apr 16 2014 03:46 AM
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Margaery Tyrell
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I like that analogy. +1
Lmao at how incredibly elaborate, and yet wildly accurate, an analogy that is.
So they are a defending character and count STR as normal.
No, because everything pre-then needs to complete successfully for the post-then to take effect. If you can't successfully kneel the character, then you don't get the rest of the text.
Yeah that makes sense. Just wishful thinking on my part. Forcing any of your opponents characters to participate is REALLY strong.
At least you can stand them first with Marya Seaworth (KotStorm).
Your better off simply standing Margaery so you can use her ability twice.Margaery is once per phase.
I agree, she's bonkers good, but I don't think she's enough to make honor guard good. Using 2 cards of mine to purposefully loose a challenge isn't something I want to do.
What happens if I redirect the challenge (title/Varys)?
I think if you are "Crown Regent" you must choose to be defending player or to redirect the challenge.Then goes abilities,stealth...
Timing of Redirects (they're all a little different):
Crown Regent: This redirect comes immediately after declaring the challenge/attackers, and therefore happens before Margaery gets a chance to use her Response. Therefore, when she can use her Response, she will be able to choose from the characters of the new defending player.
Lord Commander: This redirect comes after the original defender (doesn't) declare defending characters. It then rewinds and gives the attacker the chance to declare stealth against the new defender. However, all of this redirect action takes place long after Margaery would have triggered her Response, so any character (controlled by the original defender) will remain in the challenge as a defending character, just not controlled by the (current) defending player. Note that since that character was not declared, it does not count against the requirements for Lord Commander.
"Supports": Like Lord Commander, this redirect comes after the original defender (doesn't) declare defending characters. However, it doesn't rewind and the attacker doesn't get the opportunity to declare stealth against the new, supporting defender. But like Lord Commander, all of this redirect action takes place long after Margaery would have triggered her Response, so any character (controlled by the original defender) will remain in the challenge as a defending character. just not controlled by the (current) defending player. Note that since that character was not declared, it does not count against the requirements for "Support."
Varys: Varys is a Response to an opponent declaring a challenge. Margaery is a Response to herself being knelt as an attacker. These Response opportunities will be open at the same time, so the timing is going to depend on who triggers their Response first. What it comes down to is that Margaery will have to choose from the characters controlled by the player who is defending at the time she is triggered. If Margaery triggers first, that will be the original defending player (and that character will stay in the challenge, defending though not controlled by the defending player once Varys is triggered). If Varys triggers first, that will be the new defending player (and the character targeted by Margaery will have to be controlled by the new defending player).