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Greatjon Umber

Submitted Darksbane , Jan 06 2012 03:55 AM | Last updated Jan 06 2012 03:55 AM


Greatjon Umber

Unique Greatjon Umber



Type: Character House: Stark
Cost: 4 Strength: 3 Icons: Military, Power
Game Text:
Lord. House Umber.
Melee.
Challenges: Kneel Greatjon Umber to have him participate in the current challenge as a defender. Then, if your Title supports the defending player's Title, Greatjon Umber claims 1 power.
Flavor Text: Greatjon became Robb's right hand, his staunchest champion.
Crest: War
Number: 61 Set: WLL
Quantity: 3 Illustrator: Daniel Cortes
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21 Comments

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cupcakewinterfell
Jan 06 2012 05:38 PM
This is so close to 100% better than the current version of Greatjon it's a little sad actually. Great card for stark, as he can defend int challenges and can not be stealthed AND has melee AND has renown of sorts in 3-4player games... still, fairly reasonable for 4 gold without deadly or true renown.
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Marcusarulis
Apr 10 2012 08:36 PM
How can he defend int challenges?
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Staton
Apr 10 2012 08:52 PM
His ability allows him to. It just says kneel Greatjon to have him participate in the current challenge. It doesn't say he would have to normally be eligible for the challenge.
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zordren
Apr 11 2012 06:47 AM
He can still be chosen as a target for stealth, though. Great card nevertheless.
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zordren
Apr 11 2012 06:49 AM
Damn - can't you edit posts??? Anyway I guess he could NOT be stealthed, since that only prevents you from "declaring" him as a defender...
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Staton
Apr 11 2012 12:42 PM
That is correct. Stealthing him won't stop him from jumping into the challenge.
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sWhiteboy
Apr 11 2012 11:55 PM
Stealth does stop him from joining. Stealth says "cannot defend," and not "cannot declare as a defender."
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Staton
Apr 12 2012 12:11 AM
huh really? Wonder when that changed.
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sWhiteboy
Apr 12 2012 12:34 AM
It is in my Core Set rulebook. Not sure it was changed.
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Staton
Apr 12 2012 02:05 AM
It must've been changed in the switch to LCG. Def wasn't like that in the CCG.
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imrahil327
Apr 12 2012 11:35 AM
Luckily there's an easy answer to this: http://www.fantasyfl...=4&efidt=638668

Ktom mentions here that even though he can be stealthed, his action is a challenges action, so you can put him in after they declare attackers but before stealth/defenders.
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zordren
Apr 13 2012 03:31 AM
Thanks for that link. I hadn't thought of using his ability BEFORE the attacker would declare stealth targets! My Stark Defense deck is going to be UNSTOPPABLE!!!

(yeah not really but I'll have fun with it anyway...)
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Kennit
Aug 05 2012 12:43 PM
If you are playing a melee game and the Greatjon participates in a military challenge "on the winnig" side. Have you also won a challenge to fulfill the criterais for The Siege of Winterfell (LoW) and in case you were defending for Winterfell (LoW)?
If not are there any possibilities or "workarounds" to make this happen?
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Kennit
Aug 06 2012 10:40 AM
Ah, my rules question has been answered already in the FFG Forum:

Players win or lose challenges, not characters. You cannot "win" the challenge if you are not the attacking player nor the defending player.
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Note however that in a Melee game if you are defending instead of the player you are supporting, you will become the winner and get powers from the agenda.

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GameOfPwns
Apr 04 2013 05:22 PM
Someone give this guy Longclaw (ASitD) or White Harbor Dromon (TGF) already!
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slothgodfather
Apr 04 2013 08:45 PM
Note that he can't claim renown for participating in challenges which you are not the defending player.
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ShadowcatX2000
Apr 04 2013 09:30 PM

Note that he can't claim renown for participating in challenges which you are not the defending player.


Technically he can if you're the attacking player. . . :P
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slothgodfather
Apr 04 2013 09:50 PM
lol,
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Jigmelingpa
May 24 2014 03:47 AM

When he joins an intrigue challenge as the defender, does Greatjon count his strength or just his melee keyword?

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dzimm19
Jul 20 2014 08:39 PM

I would like to know this also^

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theamazingmrg
Jul 20 2014 10:33 PM

He would count his strength+melee.  Just because he does have an intrigue icon doesn't mean he can't count his strength.  It just means he can't be declared as an attacker or defender during Int challenges.  His ability allows you to bypass the declaration of defenders and put him into that challenge.  No effect on his strength whatsoever.


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