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Walder Frey

Submitted Darksbane , Aug 18 2010 06:42 PM | Last updated Mar 01 2011 05:26 PM

Walder Frey

Type: Character House: Neutral
Cost: 0 Strength: 4 Icons:
Game Text:
Lord. House Frey.
Deadly.
After at least 1 defender is declared during a challenge, kneel Walder Frey to have him participate on the side that is currently winning the challenge.
Flavor Text: "He is not reasonable. He is proud, and prickly to a fault." - Catelyn Stark
Number: 51 Set: ACoS
Quantity: 1 Illustrator: Nicole Cardiff

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11 Comments

Boofus
Jun 24 2012 11:10 PM

If my Walder sides with my opponent when he attacks, who controls him?
My guess is still me, so I don't have to kill one of my participating characters for deadly (During a challenge, if the attacking player controls the most participating characters with the “Deadly” keyword, the defending player must choose and kill a defending participating character after the challenge resolves.) And vice versa, if I attack and Walder sides with the defending player, he must kill someone for deadly.
Also, I can choose him to die for MIL claim in a challenge even if he was on my opponent's side.

It seems fishy, so what am I missing?

Bomb
Jun 25 2012 09:56 PM

You control Walder Frey at all times and his Deadly keyword will count for you, even if he is on the other side of the challenge.

If you are attacking, and the opponent declares enough defenders to begin winning the challenge, causing Walder Frey to participate on the defending side, if you have more Deadly than the defender, he can choose to satisfy Deadly with Walder Frey based on the rule you just quoted about Deadly.

Yes, if Walder Frey helps the attacker beat you, you can choose him for claim.

He's an unusual character in the game, but his ability is oh so nedly.

Laxen
Jun 26 2012 07:20 AM

You make it sound as if "currently" is a continuous check - so that if the side he's not on becomes the currently winning side, he switches sides. Are you sure about this?

Ire
Jun 26 2012 09:31 AM

He has to kneel to "switch" sides so he will not be able to bounce around from one "winner" to another too much unless there is a way to stand him constantly.

Laxen
Jun 26 2012 11:03 AM

Ye, that's what I assumed too.

jackmerridew
Jun 26 2012 01:10 PM

i was always surprised he didn't get more play

Reager
Jun 26 2012 01:37 PM

that head...

slothgodfather
Jun 26 2012 02:25 PM

Ire, on 26 June 2012 - 09:31 AM, said:

He has to kneel to "switch" sides so he will not be able to bounce around from one "winner" to another too much unless there is a way to stand him constantly.

Actually even if he is standing, the part that triggers him is the "after at least 1 defender has been declared". Which should only happen once per challenge right?

Ire
Jun 26 2012 05:42 PM

slothgodfather, on 26 June 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

Actually even if he is standing, the part that triggers him is the "after at least 1 defender has been declared". Which should only happen once per challenge right?

Yes thats correct, there probably isn't any cards currently that allow you to declare new defender, atleast not in declare wording.

Omek
Sep 14 2012 03:31 AM

Since his ability doesn't have a response or a player-action window phase preceeding it, does this mean that if Walder is standing (and able to kneel), you *must* kneel him and use his ability during *any* challenge after at least 1 defender is declared?