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Shireen Baratheon


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Shireen Baratheon

Unique Shireen Baratheon



Type: Character House: Baratheon
Cost: 1 Strength: 1 Icons: Power
Game Text:
Lady.
House Baratheon only.
If Shireen Baratheon would be killed, instead attach her to your House Card as your only agenda with the text: "Response: After you win a [Power] challenge, choose a character you control with renown. Until the end of the phase, when that character claims power for renown, it claims 1 additional power."
Crest: Noble
Number: 26 Set: VD
Quantity: 3 Illustrator: Owen William Weber
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27 Comments

I think I want to try my hand at a Baratheon rush deck. :) I really like these character/agenda combos
I might have to use that :D
Looks like this agenda would go well with Robert Baratheon (KotStorm) so you can get an additional power challenge in. I don't think I need to go into detail how crazy Bara power challenges can get.
i dont really think this charagenda is good enough to replace better agendas. it seems like at best it will give you somewhere around 3-5 (though most likely 3 by the time its killed) extra power per game, but is somewhat slow for baratheon rush decks beacuse it needs to be killed first. of course there are most likely some combos out there with this. maybe it would have been better i think if the extra power was claimed on the house instead?
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FinalWarrior
Jul 18 2012 04:07 PM
Would this give your character with renown the additional 1 power on the first powers challenge of the round? Or do you have to completely win the first powers challenge before you can do the response?
Well the agenda ability is a response, and the ability that it gives the character "When this character claims power for renown it claims an additional power." is a passive. Passives happen before responses, so by the time you have triggered the response it is too late for the passive to go off. Long story short, you don't get the extra power for the first challenge.
There is no response window for Player Actions (except for save/cancel responses) between the determination of the winner and the awarding of Renown, so you would have to make subsequent challenges to use Shireen's bonus.
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FinalWarrior
Jul 18 2012 04:53 PM
I see. Thanks again guys. I really need to get this whole response window and order down.
I think this card is pretty amazing! 3 of her isn't a waste as she's good claim soak. (I'll probably stick with 2 though.) And she acts as a deterrent from you're opponent Mil challenging you at all!
Add in extra crown challenges (or just more challenges in the same phase) and you can swing insane amounts of power.
Buffs
Ser Eldon Estermont (MotM), Ser Jon Fossoway (MotA) or even Devious Intentions (BoRF).
Not too useful for Noble rush of course, but not a bad card at all.
If u already are running an agenda can u add Shireen as agenda so it replaces the agenda your running?
No, see p. 6 Core Set Rules:

Agendas cannot be removed from the game by any card effects

So since she doesn't specifically say, that she can replace an agenda, she can't and in case you are running one, Shireen would go to your dead pile.
ah ok tnx for the clarification
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ProfessorWerewolf
Jul 06 2013 12:09 AM
Probably a dumb question, but could you utilize Wildfire Assault to kill her and then activate her effect? It says "Cannot be Saved" but I wasn't sure if her effect would count as saving.
It is not considered saving, and Wildfire is commonly used in character agenda dexks for this reason.
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slothgodfather
Jul 06 2013 06:41 AM

Probably a dumb question, but could you utilize Wildfire Assault to kill her and then activate her effect? It says "Cannot be Saved" but I wasn't sure if her effect would count as saving.


Not a dumb question at all. Save effects are only considered save effects if they actually use the word "save" in the ability. So cards like Risen from the Sea (KotS) are considered "saves" but cards like Retreat (Core) are not.
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ThePrestige
Jul 09 2014 10:20 PM
After having attached her To The House card ,could I play one more copy of shireen as a character ?

After having attached her To The House card ,could I play one more copy of shireen as a character ?

 

You could, when playing unique character, you only check your dead pile.

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theamazingmrg
Jul 10 2014 08:41 AM
Bizarrely, yes.

If you have a way of performing multiple Power challenges, can you stack this effect multiple times on the same character?

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theamazingmrg
Aug 17 2014 10:18 AM

I wouldn't have thought so.  Characters can only claim power for renown once per challenge, thus would only claim the extra power once.  The Agenda ability doesn't grant the text to the card, just says gain an additional power when claiming power for renown.  That said I'm by no means 100% sure!

The card states "claim an additional power" it doesn't give a cap on how many times it can be activated being that it's a response so therefore i believe that you can trigger it again if you won a power challenge more than once. BTW you can trigger it if you win in defense too.

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ThePrestige
Aug 20 2014 07:34 PM
If I win a challenge in which Shireen dies by deadly and My other char has renown, could I trigger her ability immediatly? Or do I have To wait Next challenge??

If I win a challenge in which Shireen dies by deadly and My other char has renown, could I trigger her ability immediatly? Or do I have To wait Next challenge??

 

You wouldn't be able to trigger her ability during that challenge, because she would be in a moribund state, and becomes an agenda after all responses for that challenge have been triggered.

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slothgodfather
Aug 24 2014 03:32 AM

Do note that with the timing of responses, you cannot trigger her ability and have them gain the power in the same challenge.  Renown is rewarded as a Framework Action Event.  When you get to Step 5 (Responses) you can give a character you control this ability.  So the NEXT time you win a challenge with that character, they will get power.    

This also means to get the best out of her you really need a character who can participate in 2 challenges per round (not including the power challenge you have to win). Generally this means they need Mil and Int icons, and not kneeling to attack/defend/both. And renown of course.

Pit another way, this is a card you have to build a deck around, otherwise the other Shireen is a better utility/claim soak character.